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Re:Leaving Apple by nomel on Friday November 01, 2019 @03:30PM (#21422788)
In all of the hiring that I’ve been a part of, this would be considered an absolutely huge red flag if it couldn’t be well justified, on the very slim chance you were given a chance to justify it.

It suggests you were a poor fit for those positions. If your whole resume suggests this, then you’re most likely a poor fit for the position you’re being considered for, which is most likely related to your experience.

I think that proving you can grow in a position is the best way to get good compensation and projects. Demonstrating that you’ll just check out means you’ll never grow or be given anything long term.

Re:Leaving Apple by goostavos on Saturday November 02, 2019 @12:12AM (#21425845)
>huge red flag if it couldn’t be well justified, on the very slim chance you were given a chance to justify it.

Good lord. Are you a "we're a family here at [business]" kind of guy? The justification is obvious: money. When businesses start giving > 60% pay raises at year 2, then you can give some weight to your "poor fit" theory. Until that magical world exists, anyone who doesn't hop while the hop is actively rewarded should be the red flag.

Re:Leaving Apple by ThrowawayR2 on Saturday November 02, 2019 @11:54AM (#21428324)
And when the job market for developers is no longer so hot (bound to happen eventually), guess whose resumes are going to the bottom of the pile?

Never forget that what goes around comes around.

Re:Leaving Apple by tuesdayrain on Saturday November 02, 2019 @01:46PM (#21428978)
It sounds like you hold a grudge against people who would rather switch companies after 2 years than sacrifice large amounts of money out of some misplaced sense of loyalty.
Re:Leaving Apple by ThrowawayR2 on Saturday November 02, 2019 @04:04PM (#21429733)
Loyalty? Thanks for the laugh, mate. Nope, it's just dollars and cents.

It sounds like you think employers should be happy to be somebody's stepping stone and eat the cost and man-hours of hiring a new employee to replace them before they've even contributed enough to break even on their own hiring expense. Funny how hiring managers somehow don't think being stepped on is a good deal; gosh, I wonder why?

Re:Leaving Apple by WrtCdEvrydy on Saturday November 02, 2019 @10:44PM (#21431758)
> eat the cost and man-hours of hiring a new employee > it's just dollars and cents.

A monetary decision was made to terminate my business relation with you... a box will be provided for your tears.

Re:Leaving Apple by ThrowawayR2 on Sunday November 03, 2019 @10:08AM (#21434251)
Can't terminate a business relationship when they were never hired. No worries and no tears.
Re:Leaving Apple by analognoise on Saturday November 02, 2019 @01:45AM (#21426103)
THIS.

You'd have to be stupid to stay longer than 2 years if someone is willing to throw a whole lot more money in your face.

Re:Leaving Apple by nomel on Monday November 04, 2019 @03:31PM (#21446151)
I agree, but that's going to run out eventually, then you're in trouble with your list of 2 year stints.
Re:Leaving Apple by markstos on Friday November 01, 2019 @04:23PM (#21423320)
I once hired a person despite the flag that he had been in something like 15 positions in 10 years. He treated us the same and bailed in about year.
Re:Leaving Apple by goatinaboat on Saturday November 02, 2019 @04:10AM (#21426468)
I interviewed someone recently who actually said “I usually get bored after a year and leave” in the interview. I don’t necessarily mind that, in a contractor but in a complex environment where it takes 6 months for people to hit their stride, why would I bother investing any time in such a person?
Re:Leaving Apple by WrtCdEvrydy on Saturday November 02, 2019 @02:34AM (#21426224)
> you were given a chance to justify it.

I was offered more money as my skills outgrew compensation at my previous position - Tagline on resume.