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Re:Early Retirement May Speed Up Cognitive Decline: Study by basch on Wednesday October 30, 2019 @05:54PM (#21403234)
I have noticed the same thing, but not from age, instead I attribute it to ux/ui.

People used to know how to type a url into an address bar. If they didnt type it correctly it didnt work. They knew how to type an email address. Now for the life of people, its actually uncomfortable to type example.com without a space into an address bar and go directly to a site and not to google. They purposely put a space between the words because they only know how to search for terms. (This could also be a semi-unconscious learned safety behavior to avoid typos in domains.) The same applies to autocomplete in the TO field of email programs. If a name doesnt autopopulate, "well that email must not exist, because autocomplete isnt suggesting their name."

As fields started thinking more for us, and the raw structure of paths has become more and more hidden (websites to apps, chrome overall shrinking and hiding protocols), I dont think its fair to attribute "well I cant find the url" to cognitive decline. Our interfaces are purpose hiding this stuff and making us depend more and more on fuzzy representations of structure.

Re:Early Retirement May Speed Up Cognitive Decline: Study by cortesoft on Wednesday October 30, 2019 @06:19PM (#21403492)
I am a senior software engineer and I do the "google instead of type the domain name" thing intentionally every time... I want to be sure I don't mistype the domain. It is not semi-unconscious... it is very much intentional.
Re:Early Retirement May Speed Up Cognitive Decline: Study by generationP on Wednesday October 30, 2019 @07:14PM (#21404032)
Unless, of course, you're looking for Sci-hub or Library Genesis, in which case Google will suggest you every thinkable misspelling of the domain but the right one :)
Re:Early Retirement May Speed Up Cognitive Decline: Study by BEEdwards on Wednesday October 30, 2019 @08:21PM (#21404498)
But if you type it in your address bar and search it, they're the top result, which is the point.
Re:Early Retirement May Speed Up Cognitive Decline: Study by hinkley on Wednesday October 30, 2019 @06:31PM (#21403606)
When I figured out that address bar autocomplete could look for matches in bookmarks, it started to change how I interact with internal tools at work. I still like to have a wiki page with all of the links for a subject area, but I'm as likely to start typing the name into my address bar and seeing what pops up.
Re:Early Retirement May Speed Up Cognitive Decline: Study by ronilan on Wednesday October 30, 2019 @06:31PM (#21403601)
Obviously.

That’s the first thing you teach kids when the start browsing by themselves.

Google provides a security layer over the brand-domain pair.

Google profits handsomely from this service but it is invaluable nonetheless.

Re:Early Retirement May Speed Up Cognitive Decline: Study by glandium on Wednesday October 30, 2019 @09:12PM (#21404751)
Except when Google shows another domain as the first (ad) result.
Re:Early Retirement May Speed Up Cognitive Decline: Study by gbear605 on Thursday October 31, 2019 @12:19AM (#21405716)
I’ve seen people get viruses from downloading the “first result” on Google, which winds up being a malicious ad.
Re:Early Retirement May Speed Up Cognitive Decline: Study by NullPrefix on Thursday October 31, 2019 @03:06AM (#21406341)
IIRC there was a first result ad showing malware infected Chrome some time ago
Re:Early Retirement May Speed Up Cognitive Decline: Study by hinkley on Wednesday October 30, 2019 @06:27PM (#21403563)
> I say "your" civilization because as soon as we started thinking for you, it became our civilization.

But the question shouldn't be, "are new interfaces making us dumber?", it should be "what are we doing with this cognitive surplus?"

If you aren't putting that surplus energy somewhere then it'll begin to go away, retired or not.

Re:Early Retirement May Speed Up Cognitive Decline: Study by lisper on Wednesday October 30, 2019 @07:22PM (#21404106)
> People used to know how to type a url into an address bar.

People used to know how to write in cursive too. Some skills just get obsolete.

Re:Early Retirement May Speed Up Cognitive Decline: Study by Roark66 on Thursday October 31, 2019 @06:31AM (#21407281)
>People used to know how to write in cursive too. Some skills just get obsolete.

I heard this few times. Is it actually a thing that people don't know how to write cursive? Natural writing (cursive) has been a part of primary education in most(perhaps all) countries since the beginning. Did they actually remove it recently? That would be insane. How one is supposed to be able to write quickly, as in when taking notes, without cursive?

Re:Early Retirement May Speed Up Cognitive Decline: Study by krapp on Thursday October 31, 2019 @06:36AM (#21407314)
> How one is supposed to be able to write quickly, as in when taking notes, without cursive?

One usually types said notes into their phone or speaks them into their watch. Or just writes them quickly the typical way, since there aren't likely to be cases where that wouldn't be sufficient.

Re:Early Retirement May Speed Up Cognitive Decline: Study by lisper on Thursday October 31, 2019 @09:47AM (#21408653)
> Is it actually a thing that people don't know how to write cursive?

Of course. Cursive writing is a use-it-or-lose-it kind of skill, and almost no one uses it any more. It has been replaced by typing. When was the last time you received a letter written in cursive? When was the last time you wrote one?

Re:Early Retirement May Speed Up Cognitive Decline: Study by izzydata on Thursday October 31, 2019 @10:28AM (#21409172)
It was part of my education through middle school up to 2004 and I had never used it since so I don't remember it.

On the other hand there are kids today that aren't taught proper typing and they can manage 30 words per minute at best while I can do 140 because I type constantly.

Re:Early Retirement May Speed Up Cognitive Decline: Study by brokensegue on Thursday October 31, 2019 @12:13PM (#21410342)
insane? I learned cursive but I was always faster writing without it. this has never been a problem for me. I type faster than handwriting. Cursive is a waste of valuable school time. there are more useful things to teach.

if you actually think "fast hand-written note taking" is a critical skill you should advocate for teaching shorthand. I'm not convinced cursive is actually faster and the science on that is hardly clear. http://nautil.us/issue/40/learning/cursive-handwriting-and-o...

Re:Early Retirement May Speed Up Cognitive Decline: Study by m0llusk on Thursday October 31, 2019 @03:18PM (#21412557)
Learning cursive is a waste of time like video games are a waste of time. The process teaches hand-eye coordination, patience, and even learning itself.
Re:Early Retirement May Speed Up Cognitive Decline: Study by brokensegue on Thursday October 31, 2019 @03:29PM (#21412674)
ok... so should we teach video games in schools? I'm not saying we should ban the use of cursive. I'm saying it doesn't deserve a prominent place in school curriculums.
Re:Early Retirement May Speed Up Cognitive Decline: Study by erfgh on Thursday October 31, 2019 @08:02AM (#21407770)
I grew up in Greece, nobody is taught cursive. I kinda developed a horrible version of it as I went along though.