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Re:Alphabet in bid to buy Fitbit by toasterlovin on Monday October 28, 2019 @01:35PM (#21379344)
> Xiaomi, Huawei, and Huami have really taken the wearables market by storm

You link to a press release. Are there actual sales numbers to back that claim up? Because all I see out in the real world are Apple watches and Fit Bits.

> I hope the rumoured Pixel Wearable isn't comically expensive like its Phone counterparts.

The Apple Watch Series 3 is available on apple.com for $199.

Re:Alphabet in bid to buy Fitbit by darkwater on Monday October 28, 2019 @01:56PM (#21379615)
> Because all I see out in the real world are Apple watches and Fit Bits.

Which world? USA? Apple Watch doesn't work outside the Apple ecosystem, and Apple doesn't own the majority of the smartphone market.

Stats for Europe, 2019 https://www.gizmochina.com/2019/10/21/smart-wearables-market...

Apple was pretty stable, Fitbit lost half its market share (to Garmin, looks like), the rest was more or less stable.

Re:Alphabet in bid to buy Fitbit by agloeregrets on Monday October 28, 2019 @03:00PM (#21380312)
I think they mean in the US (which obviously is not the whole world) Here in the US the iPhone is more than 50% market share (likely much higher, if you were to count hours of use rather than just raw devices. Many mid-range android users own one simply because it’s what the company told them to buy and they “just wanted a phone” while low end android devices lack battery life.) In the wearables market in the US, Garmin exclusively sells to hardcore fitness fans. They really are a niche company, (a very profitable niche, with high selling prices). In that context, yep, all you see are Fitbits and Apple watches. Fitbit is seen as the “android” of the smart watch world, which is quite funny as wearOS has become DOA.
Re:Alphabet in bid to buy Fitbit by markmark on Monday October 28, 2019 @06:18PM (#21382342)
Here in my part of Australia apple watches are pretty rare, but I see a lot of more general fitness trackers, and plenty of Garmin watches. When I was in SF for work recently it seemed like every second person had an apple watch.
Re:Alphabet in bid to buy Fitbit by nradov on Tuesday October 29, 2019 @12:24AM (#21384233)
In the US, iPhone market share is 41%.

Garmin sells a wide range of fitness trackers, only some of which are targeted to hardcore athletes. They have other models for casual users or those who care more about style.

Re:Alphabet in bid to buy Fitbit by Terretta on Wednesday October 30, 2019 @02:04PM (#21400628)
But 83% among teens (still ticking up) as of October 2019

https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20191008005671/en/Pip...

Re:Alphabet in bid to buy Fitbit by neves on Tuesday October 29, 2019 @11:15AM (#21388078)
I Brazil I just see Mi Bands. Apple watches are just for who wants to display they have money.
Re:Alphabet in bid to buy Fitbit by criley2 on Tuesday October 29, 2019 @08:54AM (#21386540)
> Many mid-range android users own one simply because it’s what the company told them to buy and they “just wanted a phone” while low end android devices lack battery life.)

It's ironic that you're totally inverted here. Most of the iPhone owners I know were given one by their company. It's the corporate standard so businesses which deal in phones hand them out.

I've actually never met someone with an Android device issued through their company. Literally 100% of the corporate phone users I know use iPhone!

Either your anecdote is the exact opposite of mine, or you're trying to create a narrative here that isn't really true.

P.S. Apple hasn't broken 50% marketshare in many years. https://www.counterpointresearch.com/us-market-smartphone-sh...

If you count browser stats, https://www.statista.com/statistics/272664/market-share-held..., then Apple barely cracks 50% in the US.

Based on your 'cavalier' understanding of the statistics I have to assume your storytelling here is as grounded in reality as your data!

Re:Alphabet in bid to buy Fitbit by citilife on Monday October 28, 2019 @04:49PM (#21381501)
> Apple doesn't own the majority of the smartphone market

They don't have to? Most people who pay for an iPhone already have bought into the ecosystem and are willing to pay a lot for Apple items (ear pods). Those people also would likely be more willing to buy wearables, so it's quite likely that they have a large stake in the wearable market (as your data shows). Most people who buy phones don't have the resources to buy accessories (like a wearable).

Even what you linked was 40% Apple, that's a huge market share for wearables (which is what you see in public). Not the majority, but probably enough that a person can say "it's all all see in the real world". Especially, if you are from a more affluent area, where locally it may be the majority.

Re:Alphabet in bid to buy Fitbit by make3 on Monday October 28, 2019 @03:39PM (#21380725)
"Which world? USA? Apple Watch doesn't work outside the Apple ecosystem, and Apple doesn't own the majority of the smartphone market."

Your own numbers show that apple is the leader of the market by far. However I agree that they don't own the whole sector

Re:Alphabet in bid to buy Fitbit by cdiddy2 on Monday October 28, 2019 @01:54PM (#21379595)
Garmin has surprisingly good offerings in the smartwatch space too
Re:Alphabet in bid to buy Fitbit by abawany on Monday October 28, 2019 @07:59PM (#21383064)
I love my Garmin. The always-on display, week long battery life, the vast variety of well-designed watch faces, and the movement prompts (with thresholds for when one has moved adequately) are really golden. My only criticism for it is the clunky charger.
Re:Alphabet in bid to buy Fitbit by steve_adams_86 on Monday October 28, 2019 @04:40PM (#21381407)
My Garmin watch has been excellent for 5 years now. It records runs accurately, stays out of the way, and holds a charge for several hours of running. It didn't cost much more than a Fitbit, but it connects with a chest band, records steps well, reminds me to move around, etc. I guess the only disadvantage is that it's kind of ugly.
Re:Alphabet in bid to buy Fitbit by ChuckMcM on Monday October 28, 2019 @02:14PM (#21379837)
I am likely to replace my Inspire HR with one if this deal goes through.
Re:Alphabet in bid to buy Fitbit by johnatwork on Monday October 28, 2019 @01:44PM (#21379458)
> The Apple Watch Series 3 is available on apple.com for $199.

Which is still a great value.

Re:Alphabet in bid to buy Fitbit by manojlds on Tuesday October 29, 2019 @12:27AM (#21384242)
Real world? I hope you are not ignoring markets like India and China where anyone I see wears a Mi Band or similar.
Re:Alphabet in bid to buy Fitbit by bashallah on Tuesday October 29, 2019 @05:10PM (#21392063)
Apple’s on series 4 for the watch
Re:Alphabet in bid to buy Fitbit by toasterlovin on Tuesday October 29, 2019 @11:35PM (#21394473)
They're on Series 5. But Series 3 is still a great watch. I'm using a Series 1 and it's still a useful addition to to my life.