Re:CS:GO players banned by Google's new chat AI
by jiofih on Sunday October 27, 2019 @09:32AM
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Unfortunately the chat is just one of the ways ‘toxic’ players manifest; the main one is simply ruining the game itself by refusing to cooperate with their team. It’s even worse in a game like Overwatch which has more complex tram dynamics. Not something AI can help with...
Re:CS:GO players banned by Google's new chat AI
by bsaul on Sunday October 27, 2019 @09:51AM
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playing the devil’s advocate here : You’re playing a game where you’re actually killing someone else, in the most realistic way. And yet you can’t say mean things in the chat.
It’s weird you can say « haha, i’m so happy i shot you in the head ». But you can’t say « you’re such a lame dumbass » ?
Re:CS:GO players banned by Google's new chat AI
by emsy on Sunday October 27, 2019 @11:41AM
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I play CS GO pretty often. I don’t register the in-game killing as killing at all. It’s more like scoring a point in volleyball or clearing a line in Tetris. The toxic behavior of your teammates however is very real and detrimental to the game. Its people insulting you for making mistakes or making a teamkill because they wanted to get revenge for something. I doubt anyone would be banned for calling someone a lame dumbass. We’re talking about screaming in the mic, thus hurting your ears and occupying voicechat, threats of violence and racism (I never witnessed sexism but that could be a problem too).
Re:CS:GO players banned by Google's new chat AI
by serf on Sunday October 27, 2019 @02:16PM
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>I never witnessed sexism but that could be a problem too
That's pretty slippery.
Why not go full Toon-Town 'SpeedChat' , parse all the voice to text, equivocate the naughty phrase that was actually uttered to an acceptable alternative, and give the player a TTS voice that says something roughly equivalent publicly.
"Eat shit, dickhead" -> "Boy, I sure am frustrated!"
"I wrecked you, you're terrible." -> "Good game, everyone!"
these censorship lengths absurd. at what point in all this cat-and-mouse game is it going to be obviously harmful towards human expression?
or, in other words, if The Machine dictates what of which was said is heard by the flock everywhere , at what point do we lose our voices?
Re:CS:GO players banned by Google's new chat AI
by emsy on Monday October 28, 2019 @12:41PM
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I'm not talking about gendered language. I'm talking about discrimination based on gender. E.g. if someone said to a woman in game: "Wow, you're bad that's why women belong to the kitchen and not the computer" or some bullshit. And it's nasty in the way I described earlier that it just tries to mess with your teammates emotionally which is basically a form of griefing and just ruins the game.
Re:CS:GO players banned by Google's new chat AI
by Jamwinner on Sunday October 27, 2019 @11:47AM
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Other than a few slurs, name-calling, racism is pretty absent in my experince. I have not seen peoples experince impinged upon because of any of their unseen atributes other than being a 'squeaker' (young player with high pitched voice), who are ruthlessly mocked by some. So the same gatekeeping bs that happens in every schoolyard, but without the local consequence.
Re:CS:GO players banned by Google's new chat AI
by xemdetia on Sunday October 27, 2019 @11:48AM
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Even on the scale of general toxicity CS:GO is so stifled that you don't even interact with your opponents that much anyway. The only thing I hope this AI takes care of is the YouTube preacher bots. You usually get the grief from mistakes/uncooperative teammates.
Re:CS:GO players banned by Google's new chat AI
by tenplusfive on Monday October 28, 2019 @05:35AM
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Reads to me like that only Faceit does this. They provide an alternative matchmaking service that is separate to the one provided by valve. The bans are most likely also limited to Faceit
Re:CS:GO players banned by Google's new chat AI
by Jamwinner on Sunday October 27, 2019 @11:43AM
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Oh no, little johnny is gonna hear a bad word!
Can we at least have an adults section before the wole of the internet becomes a kiddie pool? I find yelling at the opponent part of the fun, as do many players. Sure, segregate us, but please don't ruin our fun we paid for. We tend to only play with others like us anyway, no need to butt in.
It’s weird you can say « haha, i’m so happy i shot you in the head ». But you can’t say « you’re such a lame dumbass » ?
That's pretty slippery.
Why not go full Toon-Town 'SpeedChat' , parse all the voice to text, equivocate the naughty phrase that was actually uttered to an acceptable alternative, and give the player a TTS voice that says something roughly equivalent publicly.
"Eat shit, dickhead" -> "Boy, I sure am frustrated!" "I wrecked you, you're terrible." -> "Good game, everyone!"
these censorship lengths absurd. at what point in all this cat-and-mouse game is it going to be obviously harmful towards human expression?
or, in other words, if The Machine dictates what of which was said is heard by the flock everywhere , at what point do we lose our voices?
Can we at least have an adults section before the wole of the internet becomes a kiddie pool? I find yelling at the opponent part of the fun, as do many players. Sure, segregate us, but please don't ruin our fun we paid for. We tend to only play with others like us anyway, no need to butt in.