Re:47 Attorneys general now support Facebook antitrust inves...
by imgabe on Tuesday October 22, 2019 @03:46PM
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Attorney General is a government position. These are government employees. They aren't going to make a personal profit off of this, unless you're saying that all 47 are corrupt in some way.
Re:47 Attorneys general now support Facebook antitrust inves...
by koube on Tuesday October 22, 2019 @04:37PM
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Also, there's only I think around 56 state-level attorneys general (if you include territories and DC) so this is roughly 80% of state-level AGs, and 90% of state AGs.
Re:47 Attorneys general now support Facebook antitrust inves...
by throwaway_law on Tuesday October 22, 2019 @03:32PM
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Or consider Facebook has a long history of anticompetitive behavior and the Government attorneys are doing their job by investigating. If anything it creates employment for Facebook attorneys not the other way around.
Re:47 Attorneys general now support Facebook antitrust inves...
by kazinator on Tuesday October 22, 2019 @03:38PM
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Of course; so an attorney can support the investigation regardless of which side they work for, which allows them to combine their support with their moral stance and pretend that they are one and the same.
Re:47 Attorneys general now support Facebook antitrust inves...
by throwaway_law on Tuesday October 22, 2019 @04:50PM
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The Attorney's General Offices are government institutions their budgets and their salaries are set by the legislatures. They don't get bigger budgets and employ more attorneys because they are investigating Facebook. Its the same as any DA/state attorney office, they don't get more money or hire more attorney's because they file more criminal charges.
If anything the government attorneys are hurting themselves professionally because they will be blackballed from ever working at Facebook and likely many other big tech companies.
Was the 1990's MS antitrust investigation and case all smoke and mirrors by attorneys for some private gain also?
Re:47 Attorneys general now support Facebook antitrust inves...
by kazinator on Tuesday October 22, 2019 @04:54PM
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> They don't get bigger budgets and employ more attorneys because they are investigating Facebook.
That seems a bit naive though; of course investigating Facebook is a demonstration of the wielding of power. If they can investigate and punish Facebook, their power and importance grows.
> If anything the government attorneys are hurting themselves professionally ...
Not if we consider their profession to be more of whatever they are doing now; if they do a good job in that, they advance. The more junior people involved in the investigation do good jobs, and advance to better, more senior positions and so on.
Re:47 Attorneys general now support Facebook antitrust inves...
by vivekd on Wednesday October 23, 2019 @10:17AM
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Every government prosecution office Ive ever worked with is overwhelmed and doing everything they can to reduce their case load. If they want an anti-trust investigation I'm confident it's not because they are looking for work.
Re:47 Attorneys general now support Facebook antitrust inves...
by c3534l on Tuesday October 22, 2019 @04:32PM
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I would find that extremely concerning. Also, New York City is already spending a fortune on just that. The main lines that feed into New York can't really be shut down for maintnence without massive water outages.
Re:47 Attorneys general now support Facebook antitrust inves...
by simplebuilder on Tuesday October 22, 2019 @01:03PM
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It’s an issue with bipartisan support, so you can bet no matter how hastily conceived some of the specific proposals are, that you’ll see them all clamoring to get credit for “taking down the man.” It will be interesting to see if out of the anti-monopoly legislation some genuinely interesting start-ups can find a new, interesting niche.
Re:47 Attorneys general now support Facebook antitrust inves...
by einpoklum on Tuesday October 22, 2019 @07:16PM
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Amazon provides cloud services to the government now; and Bezos owns the Washington Post. Plus, and perhaps more importantly, the Democrats did not try to pin "Russiagate" allegations on Amazon. Now, Trump kind of dislikes him IIRC, but still - the political climate does not seem favorable to going after Amazon that way.
Re:47 Attorneys general now support Facebook antitrust inves...
by turc1656 on Tuesday October 22, 2019 @01:40PM
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This isn't whataboutism even though it contains the words "what about". Whataboutism is an attempt to excuse one thing because some other bad actor or event wasn't dealt with properly. It's when you try to discredit an argument by implicitly charging them with some sort of hypocritical stance. I'm simply saying Amazon should be next on the list that they investigate. I'm not trying to say that these are bullshit inquires because Amazon hasn't been investigated, which is what a whataboutism on this would be. I'm saying the opposite - that Facebook and Google should be investigated but so should Amazon.
Re:47 Attorneys general now support Facebook antitrust inves...
by throwaway87378 on Tuesday October 22, 2019 @01:40PM
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Amazon is a trust, not yet a monopoly. There is an inherent conflict of interest, and lack of recourse (forced arbitration), between Amazon marketplace sellers and Amazon the e-commerce store. Likewise between AWS customers and Amazon the e-commerce store and advertising network. By any reasonable consumer standards, AWS should be split off into a separate company. The pervasive surveillance and continual scandals surrounding Ring's handling of user data, when taken in context of Amazon's collection of user data from the e-commerce store, advertising network, Alexa, other Amazon business units, and purchased third party data, mean that Amazon should never have been allowed to acquire Ring in the first place. If the Department of Justice Antitrust Division had not been completely captured by corporate interests, they would be in the process of litigating to undo this acquisition right now.
Re:47 Attorneys general now support Facebook antitrust inves...
by tombert on Tuesday October 22, 2019 @02:46PM
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Not exactly the same, but in the 90's we almost split up Microsoft to two separate divisions: a company that builds the operating system, and a company that builds user-space applications.
This was because, during the browser wars of the 90s, Microsoft was purposefully gimping competing browsers at the OS level like Netscape Navigator so as to encourage people to use Internet Explorer.
"47 plumbing company bosses now support complete inspection of all NY city pipes ..."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_attorney_general
If anything the government attorneys are hurting themselves professionally because they will be blackballed from ever working at Facebook and likely many other big tech companies.
Was the 1990's MS antitrust investigation and case all smoke and mirrors by attorneys for some private gain also?
That seems a bit naive though; of course investigating Facebook is a demonstration of the wielding of power. If they can investigate and punish Facebook, their power and importance grows.
> If anything the government attorneys are hurting themselves professionally ...
Not if we consider their profession to be more of whatever they are doing now; if they do a good job in that, they advance. The more junior people involved in the investigation do good jobs, and advance to better, more senior positions and so on.
Are you saying Facebook should be above the law and not answerable to any government?
This was because, during the browser wars of the 90s, Microsoft was purposefully gimping competing browsers at the OS level like Netscape Navigator so as to encourage people to use Internet Explorer.
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breakup_of_the_Bell_System
[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_Oil_Co._of_New_Jersey...