Google attempted to shut down a unionization meeting in Zurich

Re:Google attempted to shut down a unionization meeting in Z... by H8crilA on Monday October 21, 2019 @05:31PM (#21317654)

I'd vote for everyone who has a reasonable plan of more scrutiny towards 40 hour work weeks.

This may reduce salaries but oh God most of us make too much money anyhow. Let's have a life now! When are you going to enjoy life, after retirement? Would you wait with sex till after retirement, too, if that offered a salary increase?

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Re:Google attempted to shut down a unionization meeting in Z... by ChuckNorris89 on Monday October 21, 2019 @06:33PM (#21318276)

>but oh God most of us make too much money anyhow

Nope, that's just in the USA, us in Europe not at all.

And I'm not even comparing EU salaries vs US salaries just tech salaries/property prices ratios for each location.

You're not overpaid, it's us that are severely underpaid in comparison.

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Re:Google attempted to shut down a unionization meeting in Z... by londons_explore on Tuesday October 22, 2019 @05:30AM (#21321707)

The lower salaries are probably due to the lack of VC funding, which in turn is rooted in a lack of really successful European tech companies.

If you work for a European company, chances are it won't grow and be successful to the same extent as an American one, and therefore your work has less value.

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Re:Google attempted to shut down a unionization meeting in Z... by mrep on Monday October 21, 2019 @06:13PM (#21318078)

Is that a startup thing, because i've only worked for the big 5 (GAFAM) and I've always worked 40 hours a week. Add in the way higher comp, and I don't know why anyone outside of founders work at startups.

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Re:Google attempted to shut down a unionization meeting in Z... by nolok on Tuesday October 22, 2019 @10:21AM (#21323865)

"We're a team", "we're in this together", that kind of things. People buy into it.

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Re:Google attempted to shut down a unionization meeting in Z... by jjeaff on Tuesday October 22, 2019 @03:47PM (#21327795)

There are a lot more factors in a successful and enjoyable career than salary and hours worked.

I wouldn't take a job that pays double what I make now and has half as many hours if those hours were nothing but sitting in a dark room.

You can get a lot of satisfaction from building something meaningful with a team that people enjoy using.

Not that you can't do that in a big company, but all development jobs at big Corp are not that.

I would tear my hair out if my only job every day was figuring out how to get more people to click on sidebar ads.

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Re:Google attempted to shut down a unionization meeting in Z... by nolok on Monday October 21, 2019 @06:03PM (#21317966)

This sounds crazy to me. If you're a funder / owner, sure, you don't count hours and it can get crazy. But if you're an employee... Most of my hires now are 30 hours a week, a few at 35h. I don't have anyone at 39h anymore, although that was still the norm a few years ago. Paid stayed the same, just reduced the hours. People are just way more productive that way, and they have two half day free on top of the normal Saturday Sunday.

Probably doesn't work for all position, and in fact the worse the job the more likely it doesn't work for it, but uh yeah you can totally reduce to 40h...

(France, 35h is the legal work time for a full time contract here, but you can absolutely have a contract with more or less hours, you just pay extra social charges for hours above the 35th)

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Re:Google attempted to shut down a unionization meeting in Z... by ChuckNorris89 on Monday October 21, 2019 @06:39PM (#21318336)

In which country is the working week 30h? Or is it just your company?

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Re:Google attempted to shut down a unionization meeting in Z... by nolok on Tuesday October 22, 2019 @02:59AM (#21321000)

My company only, working week by law is 35h hours here

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Re:Google attempted to shut down a unionization meeting in Z... by okr on Monday October 21, 2019 @05:46PM (#21317816)

You can not reduce your 40 hour week? I know of at least two companies in Berlin, one of it is the one i work in, that are pretty flexible regarding the 40 hour week.

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