Playing devils advocate here: I think the reasoning behind it could be argued that if people dont know which intersections have red light cameras, they are more likely to not run reds at any intersection just in case. Similar to the idea behind [Panopticon](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panopticon). If the cameras were clearly labeled people might run reds in unlabeled intersections.

To clarify, the one the guy in the article is complaining about is not hidden, has been there for something like 15 years, and has plenty of signage warning about it.

It was also an intersection that had tons of accidents from people running the light before the camera was installed.

You wanna know what reduces red-light related accidents more than cameras? Increasing the duration of the yellow light.

https://saferstreetsla.org/679/case-studies-longer-yellow-li...

Also increasing yellow light duration is significantly cheaper than contracting out a network of cameras to a vendor who takes over half the revenue from each ticket.

> increasing yellow light duration is significantly cheaper than contracting out a network of cameras to a vendor who takes over half the revenue from each ticket.

It's cheaper for society, yes. It's much more expensive if you're the government notionally "paying" for that contract. It's paid out of revenues you didn't have before.

Ever time I've ever heard of these being implemented, the company selling them provides the cameras and installation at no cost. That's how they justify collecting a cut. It's free money for the city.

As a potential counterargument, if you fear Red Light Cameras but don't know where they are, you'll drive more safely at all intersections, not just the ones where they're actually installed.

That requires evidence that people drive more safely in their ticket-avoidance driving, vs accelerating through greens to beat the yellow, or slamming brakes on yellow to cause rear-end collisions.

This doesn’t seem to be the case. People drive more recklessly trying to avoid triggering a ticket. Cities know this and don’t care as long as they increase revenue. Bad people often run big cities.

This is a complete lie.

The idea is to stop people running red lights everywhere, not just at red light locations.

If you run red lights, you should be banned from driving just like if you speed. The roads are unsafe enough as it is.

Punishing people for the light turning red when their back tires haven’t fully made it out of the box has nothing to do with safety.

If it was about safety, it would only hit people when the crossing traffic light turned green.