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Re:Americans Now Need at Least $500k a Year to Enter Top 1% by gitgudnubs on Wednesday October 16, 2019 @08:44PM (#21277834)
A single person in San Fransisco with an income of $500,000 and the standard deduction has a takes home $288,646.

A single person in San Fransisco has a cost of living of $1125.83 without rent, according to numbeo (whatever that is). Median rent in San Fransisco is $3700 for a one bedroom.

That leaves a measly $230,736 of post-tax, post-living expenses money. Assuming this person does nothing more than hide a monotonically increasing pile of cash under a mattress, it takes just over 43 years to amass $10,000,000.

Presumably this financial cretan started working right after college, at the age of 22. This means they've acquired the full sum at the age of 65, which is not an uncommon retirement age. Cuts close, but checks out.

Re:Americans Now Need at Least $500k a Year to Enter Top 1% by onlyrealcuzzo on Wednesday October 16, 2019 @08:57PM (#21277923)
More realistically, if you get a 5% return on your investments (or ~2% after inflation), in 43 years you'd have $14,663,123.

I'm lucky enough to be making ~$400k at 30. At 21, I was lucky enough to be making $65k. Virtually no one starts off making $500k. Even if you start at the top 1% of income earners and stay there your entire life, live relatively frugally, never have kids, never take a break from work, and invest well -- even then, you're still unlikely to accrue $10M in wealth.

Re:Americans Now Need at Least $500k a Year to Enter Top 1% by gitgudnubs on Thursday October 24, 2019 @03:49PM (#21348496)
Geometric average returns for stocks are over 7%, and that accounts for inflation. The scenario presented to me included no investments, and a flat career.

I think the high cost of living in San Fransisco was a reasonable assumption for someone in the top 1% of income. I think the complete absence of investment in my analysis more than makes up for a flat career. It's not even clear that modeling a flat career growth increases the number, since income tends to peak around 48.

Re:Americans Now Need at Least $500k a Year to Enter Top 1% by ummonk on Wednesday October 16, 2019 @08:56PM (#21277914)
Yes, because someone earning 500k totally started earning that sum right out of college and will never get married or have kids...
Re:Americans Now Need at Least $500k a Year to Enter Top 1% by gitgudnubs on Thursday October 24, 2019 @03:45PM (#21348465)
I didn't set the parameters of the question. I didn't consider investing the money either, proving that I was literally just responding to the scenario as presented. I chose San Fransisco, because it's close to home for posters here.
Re:Americans Now Need at Least $500k a Year to Enter Top 1% by chiph on Wednesday October 16, 2019 @09:02PM (#21277946)
But if they were dual-income, no-kids (DINKs) they'd get there even faster.
Re:Americans Now Need at Least $500k a Year to Enter Top 1% by viscanti on Wednesday October 16, 2019 @08:49PM (#21277867)
I don't think many people should expect to get into the top 1% of assets by just sticking money under a mattress. Presumably most would invest it and expect an average rate of return of 7% or so from decades of investing. Eventually the investment grows more from compounding than new income.
Re:Americans Now Need at Least $500k a Year to Enter Top 1% by novok on Wednesday October 16, 2019 @08:51PM (#21277882)
The compound interest of saving 19k/month @ %7/yr rate results in 10 million after 21 years, which is under half of 43 years.
Re:Americans Now Need at Least $500k a Year to Enter Top 1% by taneq on Wednesday October 16, 2019 @09:24PM (#21278083)
And you can get 7% per annum on a savings account... where, exactly? Back in 1985 via a time machine, maybe?
Re:Americans Now Need at Least $500k a Year to Enter Top 1% by jki275 on Wednesday October 16, 2019 @09:34PM (#21278151)
S&P 500 index fund will probably average you around 7%.
Re:Americans Now Need at Least $500k a Year to Enter Top 1% by MR4D on Wednesday October 16, 2019 @10:35PM (#21278437)
I happened to look this up earlier today for a completely different reason - S&P results to date since 1/1/2000 is 5.6% assuming dividends were reinvested.
Re:Americans Now Need at Least $500k a Year to Enter Top 1% by jki275 on Thursday October 17, 2019 @01:51PM (#21284575)
Ah, I was off a bit then. Thanks for the update.
Re:Americans Now Need at Least $500k a Year to Enter Top 1% by gitgudnubs on Monday October 28, 2019 @05:14PM (#21381751)
No you weren't. That period includes one of the worst recessions in recorded economic history. The other guy either intentionally picked and chose his years, or is simply bad at research.

An inflation adjusted long-term trend is over 7%.

Re:Americans Now Need at Least $500k a Year to Enter Top 1% by jki275 on Tuesday October 29, 2019 @07:50AM (#21386056)
That's a fair point, but I don't think it's ridiculous to choose the last 20 years as a discussion point.
Re:Americans Now Need at Least $500k a Year to Enter Top 1% by losteric on Wednesday October 16, 2019 @09:55PM (#21278256)
I think the more interesting question is, how many San Franciscans earn $500,000/year?
Re:Americans Now Need at Least $500k a Year to Enter Top 1% by gitgudnubs on Monday October 28, 2019 @05:14PM (#21381757)
Discounting the homeless? Lots.