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Re:The Money Behind The Climate Denial Movement (2013) by neffy on Saturday October 12, 2019 @08:51AM (#21232643)
If a group of people is allowed to consistently get away with not paying their taxes, then fairly quickly, just by the operation of the monetary system, they will be the only people with any money.

The real question is, are these really the people you want in control?

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Re:The Money Behind The Climate Denial Movement (2013) by neffy on Saturday October 12, 2019 @11:12AM (#21233747)
You think the Chinese banking system doesn´t have these issues as well?

They introduced loan securitization a few years ago, and their system does not have anywhere close to the flexibility or tolerance for dissent they are going to need to deal with the issues that is creating for them.

Re:The Money Behind The Climate Denial Movement (2013) by AJ007 on Saturday October 12, 2019 @09:17AM (#21232851)
Yes they can, it’s called inflating away the debt - presuming it isn’t debt issued in a foreign currency.
Re:The Money Behind The Climate Denial Movement (2013) by wincy on Saturday October 12, 2019 @09:21AM (#21232879)
I’d rather no one be threatened with prison for not paying taxes. I don’t think the state (or anyone else) should be able to throw you in prison because you haven’t paid up. It’s just the modern day threat of debtors prison.
Re:The Money Behind The Climate Denial Movement (2013) by DFHippie on Saturday October 12, 2019 @09:42AM (#21233039)
How many people are actually in prison for refusing to pay taxes? How does this compare to the number of people who have suffered some penalty for refusing to pay taxes? What should be done about people who Bartleby the Scrivener their way out of a legal obligation?
Re:The Money Behind The Climate Denial Movement (2013) by huffmsa on Saturday October 12, 2019 @09:12AM (#21232803)
No, the real question is why do you think that "the government" is entitled to a percentage of your money, and why you think they can spend it better than the private sector.
Re:The Money Behind The Climate Denial Movement (2013) by neffy on Saturday October 12, 2019 @11:07AM (#21233710)
Well I´ve worked in the private sector most of my life, and I have observed it to be well staffed with human beings.

And human beings, in my experience, can be lazy, venal, honourable or hardworking, in both the private and the government sector. But the last time I checked, the private sector only cared about the people with money, whereas the government is required to care about everybody.

Re:The Money Behind The Climate Denial Movement (2013) by huffmsa on Saturday October 12, 2019 @11:58AM (#21234119)
But that means the private sector only has to focus on what makes them money,and they must do it well, or else they go away.
Re:The Money Behind The Climate Denial Movement (2013) by ykevinator on Saturday October 12, 2019 @09:18AM (#21232856)
Because they pay for sewage and libraries
Re:The Money Behind The Climate Denial Movement (2013) by GarrisonPrime on Saturday October 12, 2019 @09:52AM (#21233103)
Much less efficiently than the private sector could.
Re:The Money Behind The Climate Denial Movement (2013) by huffmsa on Saturday October 12, 2019 @09:23AM (#21232905)
Unless you pay a private firm to drill a well and put a septic tank in the ground.

Cost a few thousand dollars, and a few hundred every few years to have them come and pump the tank.

I pay Amazon ~$10 a month for access to more reading, listening and video content than most major university libraries have access too.

No late fees either.

Of course sewage is better handled at the municipality level in dense areas, and I'm not okay with private firms having control over access to information, but Federal level governments are highly inefficient.

Re:The Money Behind The Climate Denial Movement (2013) by michaelmrose on Saturday October 12, 2019 @11:50AM (#21234056)
Anyone who thinks Amazon is a fit replacement for libraries hasn't thought the matter through much.

If one has 12-48k to pay rent this year a few hundred for a machine, about 1k for internet access then one can pay 10 a month to access a worse collection a homeless man could check out at the library.

Access to the rest of human knowledge is available for 10 to 100 a pop.

Re:The Money Behind The Climate Denial Movement (2013) by huffmsa on Saturday October 12, 2019 @12:08PM (#21234185)
A cellphone, a cheap data plan + prime will run you ~$500 at the most.

Or ~$1.50 a day. And you get the rest of the internets knowledge included.

No hours of operation, no librarians giving you dirty looks