Re:Dealing with China Isn’t Worth the Moral Cost
by pishpash on Thursday October 10, 2019 @12:15AM
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You're giving China too much credit here. It has single-handedly gone down the wrong path with HK in the same way that it did so with Taiwan maybe 30 years ago. But in both cases, you don't think the nativist/chauvinist local media and Western propaganda had anything to do with it, in fanning a negative identity ("not Chinese")? Nothing at all?
Re:Dealing with China Isn’t Worth the Moral Cost
by RavlaAlvar on Thursday October 10, 2019 @12:52AM
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No , because there’s only one major newspapers that is pro democracy. All other major media is either centrist controlled by businessman, or flat out pro-CCP.
But even back in 2008, the pro-democracy paper namely Apple Daily also was celebrating our Chinese identity, and praising china’s progress.
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Re:Dealing with China Isn’t Worth the Moral Cost
by dang on Thursday October 10, 2019 @02:34AM
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I realize that it's frustrating to represent a minority viewpoint, but if you post in the ranty and flamey style, not only do you break the site guidelines, you end up discrediting your own viewpoint. And if your view is correct, then you end up discrediting the truth, which is even worse.
We've had to ask you multiple times not to do this. Would you please read https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stick to the rules when posting here, regardless of how wrong others are or you feel they are?
We all shared the same view with the west that China will eventually transform itself to democracy and we shall have harmony in 2047.....right until China shattered the promised universal suffrage.
Also, China had singlehandedly groom the separatist sentiments HK. Initially in 2014, there were only a handful of activists and they weren’t even treated seriously even within the pro-democracy circle. But lately you see Chinese state media started to put the separatist hat on every pro-democracy movement and figure. You can imagine people are extremely frustrated by this narrative and many young people started to wholeheartedly support independence (no matter how impossible it seems).