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Re:After 'South Park' Censorship Episode, China Deleted the ... by mattmanser on Tuesday October 08, 2019 @10:47AM (#21192881)
South Park has been advocating an ideology, including many morals, from day one of the shows. It may be a mixed message, it may be contradictory, but a lot of SP comedy hinges on pointing out the absurdities in our societies.

Comedy has always been a place you'd look if you want to see someone speak truth to power, for millennia too, and South Park has always done that.

Re:After 'South Park' Censorship Episode, China Deleted the ... by joelx on Tuesday October 08, 2019 @11:42AM (#21193482)
South Park is 100% right. We need to back them in their fight against a murderous totalitarian dictatorship holding millions of people in concentration camps.

We might like the cheap goods coming from China, but remember they come from people who are forced to work at 7 days a week 14 hours a day for nearly no pay.

Boycott the NBA and Blizzard and anyone else who won't start standing up for democracy.

Re:After 'South Park' Censorship Episode, China Deleted the ... by IllogicalLogic on Tuesday October 08, 2019 @12:43PM (#21194174)
Being the weaker party in a negotiation is a new role for US, we'll get used to it...
Re:After 'South Park' Censorship Episode, China Deleted the ... by jerf on Tuesday October 08, 2019 @01:19PM (#21194591)
Well, one of the developments of the last six months has been to put a lot of pinpricks in the idea that China is an inevitably rising world superpower that will inevitably supplant the US in the near future. I wouldn't say that's off the table entirely, but it's looking a lot more evitable.
Re:After 'South Park' Censorship Episode, China Deleted the ... by IllogicalLogic on Tuesday October 08, 2019 @05:35PM (#21197536)
What we believe as American consumers and what is economically true are two different sometimes contradictory stories.
Re:After 'South Park' Censorship Episode, China Deleted the ... by digitalneal on Tuesday October 08, 2019 @11:57AM (#21193664)
Yup. What would Brian Boitano do?
Re:After 'South Park' Censorship Episode, China Deleted the ... by chrisco255 on Tuesday October 08, 2019 @12:27PM (#21194000)
I bet he'd kick an ass or two.
Re:After 'South Park' Censorship Episode, China Deleted the ... by pen2l on Tuesday October 08, 2019 @11:48AM (#21193550)
I happen to think it's a net negative.

It had considerable part in setting back efforts to deal with climate change.

They did a mea culpa, but still, I can't tell you how annoyed I was in college with the amount of people who would challenge the idea of climate change just because they watched a South Park episode.

Re:After 'South Park' Censorship Episode, China Deleted the ... by rtpg on Tuesday October 08, 2019 @12:03PM (#21193736)
The message of South Park is to point at people with any conviction and say “ha! Look at these idiots with an ideology. The only correct way is to be edgy and make fun of everything”

It’s basically about nihilism.

Re:After 'South Park' Censorship Episode, China Deleted the ... by SirensOfTitan on Tuesday October 08, 2019 @12:42PM (#21194155)
"It seems to be a hangover of the Medieval Catholic era that causes most people, even the educated, to think that everybody must "believe" something or other, that if one is not a theist one must be a dogmatic atheist, and if one does not think capitalism is perfect, one must believe fervently in socialism, and if one does not have blind faith in "X", one must alternatively have blind faith in not X or reverse of X. My own opinion is that belief is the death of intelligence. As soon as one believes a doctrine of any sort, or assume certitude, one stops thinking about that aspect of existence. The more certitude one assumes, the less there is left to think about, and a person sure of everything would never have any need to think about anything and might be considered typically dead under current medical standards where absence of brain activity is taken to mean that life has ended." Robert Anton Wilson
Re:After 'South Park' Censorship Episode, China Deleted the ... by AtomicOrbital on Wednesday October 09, 2019 @08:55AM (#21202701)
yes however it goes without saying taking a stand to not believe is also a belief position
Re:After 'South Park' Censorship Episode, China Deleted the ... by ForceOfPhil on Thursday October 10, 2019 @07:01AM (#21213025)
I like rush

"if you decide not to choose you still have made a choice"

Re:After 'South Park' Censorship Episode, China Deleted the ... by SirensOfTitan on Wednesday October 09, 2019 @09:22AM (#21202900)
The stand as outlined above is the middle way: I.e. neither belief nor non-belief. Beliefs are useful models but are only models after all.
Re:After 'South Park' Censorship Episode, China Deleted the ... by Data_Junkie on Tuesday October 08, 2019 @12:29PM (#21194013)
You completely misunderstand what they do. The art form is political satire, which is just another way of saying "Look at these idiots, we need to stop this".
Re:After 'South Park' Censorship Episode, China Deleted the ... by dfxm12 on Tuesday October 08, 2019 @12:29PM (#21194027)
Comedy has always been a place you'd look if you want to see someone speak truth to power, for millennia too, and South Park has always done that.

No, not always. They sometimes do that. Calling vegetarians pussies [0] is not speaking truth to power. It's punching down. South Park's approach is more the "try to piss off everyone" approach, which while funny, is a bad way to find your moral compass.

0 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTog_NtCEio

Re:After 'South Park' Censorship Episode, China Deleted the ... by lawnchair_larry on Tuesday October 08, 2019 @01:33PM (#21194749)
“Punching down” itself is a concept they would, and should, make fun of. That term is just a way of framing speech that you disagree with in order to censor it for being anti-virtuous.
Re:After 'South Park' Censorship Episode, China Deleted the ... by Can_Not on Tuesday October 08, 2019 @09:23PM (#21199082)
Calling the term "punching down" just a way to frame speech that one disagrees with in order to censor it just sounds like a way for you to censor people who criticize you for punching down.
Re:After 'South Park' Censorship Episode, China Deleted the ... by dfxm12 on Tuesday October 08, 2019 @02:08PM (#21195172)
“Punching down” itself is a concept they would, and should, make fun of.

Well, it's been well established that they would make fun of anything. I'm not arguing that. You tell the writers what they should be doing though.

That term is just a way of framing speech that you disagree with in order to censor it for being anti-virtuous.

No it's not. You're making a lot of false assumptions about what I said based on zero evidence. If you don't understand what I'm saying, that's one thing, but don't put words in my mouth.

Re:After 'South Park' Censorship Episode, China Deleted the ... by miles on Tuesday October 08, 2019 @12:59PM (#21194356)
No need to take anything South Park does personally; they do a great job of making fun of just about everyone ("Team America" perhaps being a prime example).

The "vegetarians are weak" meme will slowly die as more amateur and professional athletes (including MMA champions, Olympians, and even the guy who coined "You hit like a vegetarian") jump on the plant-based wagon:

https://gamechangersmovie.com/#trailer

Re:After 'South Park' Censorship Episode, China Deleted the ... by dfxm12 on Tuesday October 08, 2019 @01:05PM (#21194414)
I don't know why you think I'm taking anything personally. I'm certainly not a vegetarian. That was the first example of South Park punching down I thought of.

Like I said, South Park does make fun of everyone. That's explicitly not always speaking truth to power, like the parent poster is claiming. And I agree with the grandparent post that we shouldn't look to South Park as a moral compass.

Re:After 'South Park' Censorship Episode, China Deleted the ... by sodosopa on Tuesday October 08, 2019 @06:58PM (#21198187)
Their main philosophy is “If you can’t laugh at yourself, who can you laugh at?”