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Re:Paypal Withdraws from Facebook's Libra Cryptocurrency by csomar on Friday October 04, 2019 @07:59PM (#21162910)
Except that

1. Same has been said of Bitcoin, and yet the government kinda embraced it.

2. Facebook is not making Libra. It is a non-profit based in Switzerland.

3. Libra is backed by USD-EUR-JPY and the related countries might turn a blind eye because of that.

Re:Paypal Withdraws from Facebook's Libra Cryptocurrency by origami777 on Friday October 04, 2019 @08:33PM (#21163062)
You don't seem to know much about gov financial regulation.

1. Gov didn't embrace bitcoin, they regulated it. The exchanges have to do KYC and AML monitoring and report activity.

2. If you think FB doesn't 100% control it, I have a bridge to sell you.

3. This doesn't really mean much at the end of the day. It's a tactical decision with low impact on regulations.

What you're failing to appreciate is how important it is for governments to control their financial operations. They don't make it hard just to make it hard. They make it hard because if they don't criminal activity will flourish.

Re:Paypal Withdraws from Facebook's Libra Cryptocurrency by jbverschoor on Saturday October 05, 2019 @04:42AM (#21164433)
They tax your holdings.

The thing is, money is an iou from the government. If people start using other ious, the influence and power of the government will fade. Result is that libra will control a country.

Re:Paypal Withdraws from Facebook's Libra Cryptocurrency by Ruphin on Friday October 04, 2019 @08:09PM (#21162960)
Bitcoin does not have an "office" that governments can raid. Governments never embraced Bitcoin, they have no choice. It is not within reach of their usual methods of control (law enforcement, diplomacy, warfare).
Re:Paypal Withdraws from Facebook's Libra Cryptocurrency by HenryKissinger on Friday October 04, 2019 @10:30PM (#21163474)
It would be very easy for the government to shut down Bitcoin:

- Shut down all bitcoin exchanges hosted in the United States

- Make it illegal for banks, credit unions, and other commercial financial institutions to allow their clients to make transactions with a crypto exchange (regardless of the countries where the exchange is hosted), or a blockchain

Re:Paypal Withdraws from Facebook's Libra Cryptocurrency by barnabee on Saturday October 05, 2019 @03:20AM (#21164232)
This would not shut down bitcoin.
Re:Paypal Withdraws from Facebook's Libra Cryptocurrency by HenryKissinger on Saturday October 05, 2019 @08:53AM (#21165228)
If you can't convert your bitcoin into fiat, then your only option is to use your btcs to purchase goods and services directly, which would further disincentivize businesses from accepting bitcoin as a form of payment. And if you can't send fiat to an exchange, you can't increase your holdings.
Re:Paypal Withdraws from Facebook's Libra Cryptocurrency by lawn on Saturday October 05, 2019 @11:57AM (#21166214)
You can always buy and sell them in person for cash. Like how you buy drugs.

The point is the government can severely hurt Bitcoin adoption by making it illegal, but it cannot completely shut it down.

Re:Paypal Withdraws from Facebook's Libra Cryptocurrency by oceanplexian on Saturday October 05, 2019 @11:56PM (#21169733)
You could simply convert bitcoin into fiat in the 200+ other countries that are not the United States.
Re:Paypal Withdraws from Facebook's Libra Cryptocurrency by HenryKissinger on Sunday October 06, 2019 @10:07AM (#21172109)
This would require you to open a foreign bank account, which you must tell the U.S. government about. Not telling them is a serious crime. See the Foreign Account Tax Compliance Act
Re:Paypal Withdraws from Facebook's Libra Cryptocurrency by aflag on Saturday October 05, 2019 @06:35AM (#21164802)
If that doesn't kill it, they could further make any bitcoin transactions illegal.
Re:Paypal Withdraws from Facebook's Libra Cryptocurrency by mianos on Saturday October 05, 2019 @04:02AM (#21164324)
I am not sure this would work unless they ban incoming telegraphic transfers.
Re:Paypal Withdraws from Facebook's Libra Cryptocurrency by fivre on Friday October 04, 2019 @08:22PM (#21163009)
MtGox and BTC-e are somewhat examples to the contrary.
Re:Paypal Withdraws from Facebook's Libra Cryptocurrency by thrillgore on Friday October 04, 2019 @08:29PM (#21163039)
And what happened to MtGox?
Re:Paypal Withdraws from Facebook's Libra Cryptocurrency by capsulecorp on Friday October 04, 2019 @08:07PM (#21162954)
About #1 Bitcoin is decentralized, there is no "office to raid", so whoever said that doesn't know what they are talking about in the least bit.
Re:Paypal Withdraws from Facebook's Libra Cryptocurrency by not-satoshi on Friday October 04, 2019 @08:04PM (#21162931)
1. Where are Bitcoin's offices?
Re:Paypal Withdraws from Facebook's Libra Cryptocurrency by csomar on Friday October 04, 2019 @08:06PM (#21162948)
Bitcoin mining is actually quite centralized in a few players; and the exchanges have established offices. The gov.s could have done some serious damage.

edit: nice try Satoshi!

Re:Paypal Withdraws from Facebook's Libra Cryptocurrency by vinniejames on Saturday October 05, 2019 @02:04AM (#21164063)
They're only centralized because free markets tend to favor centralization. Should the big mining operations be shut down, it would become instantly profitable for smaller miners to switch on again
Re:Paypal Withdraws from Facebook's Libra Cryptocurrency by therein on Friday October 04, 2019 @09:17PM (#21163219)
So what you're saying is we will go raid unrelated folks? Where would you stop, would you also seize assets of people running non-mining nodes?
Re:Paypal Withdraws from Facebook's Libra Cryptocurrency by eternalban on Friday October 04, 2019 @08:04PM (#21162930)
You forgot to add that many of us suspect Google and Facebook are outsourced DoD projects.
Re:Paypal Withdraws from Facebook's Libra Cryptocurrency by opportune on Friday October 04, 2019 @09:10PM (#21163197)
That would be the best kept secret of all time
Re:Paypal Withdraws from Facebook's Libra Cryptocurrency by dboreham on Saturday October 05, 2019 @01:21AM (#21163964)
In the beginning...1993 or so, before Altavista, everyone I knew doing web search came from TLA contractors where they had been long working on similar projects.