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Re:Y Combinator Top Companies List 2019 by krn on Wednesday October 02, 2019 @11:42AM (#21137657)
> I am surprised that reddit is on #13.

Reddit might be a #1 project out of all the startups ever funded by Y Combinator, but it's unlikely to ever become a top 10 company.

Because as an ad business it can neither match Google at targeting audience by exact user intent, nor Facebook at targeting audience by exact user profile.

In fact, I see reddit more like Couchsurfing: a project which would do much better as a foundation rather than a corporation, based on the role it plays in the society.

At its essence, it's a highly scalable CRUD application, which requires a simple user interface, respectful community moderation, and as little user tracking as possible.

Re:Y Combinator Top Companies List 2019 by segmondy on Wednesday October 02, 2019 @12:07PM (#21137981)
> "It's just a CRUD application"

If I had a quarter every time I heard this. You can say that for half of the companies on that list. If Facebook and Google can make so much money from ads, heck even Twitter. Reddit can do the same if they really put in the effort in building a strong ad platform. They are quite comfortable.

Re:Y Combinator Top Companies List 2019 by AlchemistCamp on Wednesday October 02, 2019 @12:30PM (#21138275)
Twitter, so much so that it has been a typical "example app" for MVC-framework intro books and tutorials for the last decade and a half!
Re:Y Combinator Top Companies List 2019 by KajMagnus on Wednesday October 02, 2019 @06:03PM (#21141246)
Calling Reddit a CRUD makes me think of saying an airplane is "aluminium and a bit nails with glue"?

One can fold paper planes too (example airplane app)

Re:Y Combinator Top Companies List 2019 by firasd on Wednesday October 02, 2019 @12:06PM (#21137972)
Why do you feel they need to either be a top 10 YC company or they should just be a foundation? Seems like if they can make a few hundred million an year they can just be an ongoing business.

“Just a CRUD app” is not a good analysis because very few of the companies on this list are based on technological breakthroughs. They are mainly B2B SaaS apps.

Re:Y Combinator Top Companies List 2019 by krn on Wednesday October 02, 2019 @12:32PM (#21138295)
> Why do you feel they need to either be a top 10 YC company or they should just be a foundation?

The history of reddit shows that its growth doesn't depend on a constant technological innovation, and that it can be successfully supported by a small number of technical employees.

Building an ad company requires a huge number of sales and support people, which significantly increases spending without adding anything to the product itself.

> Seems like if they can make a few hundred million an year they can just be an ongoing business.

That would be fine, but reddit is not Craiglist, which never took any money from the outside. They have raised money at $3 billion valuation, and they will have to IPO – or get acquired by a larger company, again.

If reddit becomes a publicly traded company, it will have to demonstrate the growth in revenue every quarter. A failure to do so might result in the heads of the company being replaced, and its direction becoming unpredictable.

> “Just a CRUD app” is not a good analysis because very few of the companies on this list are based on technological breakthroughs. They are mainly B2B SaaS apps.

SaaS companies are making money by solving easily measurable problems of their customers. Reddit is not.

Re:Y Combinator Top Companies List 2019 by bpicolo on Wednesday October 02, 2019 @04:19PM (#21140349)
> SaaS companies are making money by solving easily measurable problems of their customers. Reddit is not.

I derive a lot of obvious value from reddit that's not their explicit goal. It's the best review and recommendation platform on the web for any random product category I can think of, for example.

Re:Y Combinator Top Companies List 2019 by skinnymuch on Thursday October 03, 2019 @04:12PM (#21151600)
Reddit is still majority owned by Advance Publications, no? They’ve had 3 fund raises since Advance Publications spun out reddit as an independent company. That’s up to 30% taken by investors. The only other shareholders are employees from the spin out. Reddit can still go another 1-2 rounds before Advance Publications doesn’t own more than 50% of reddit. Maybe the latter two rounds have deals that will force an IPO sooner, but otherwise it seems Reddit doesn’t have the same pressure as your average startup that has raised $500M+.
Re:Y Combinator Top Companies List 2019 by arbuge on Wednesday October 02, 2019 @12:40PM (#21138373)
> Because as an ad business it can neither match Google at targeting audience by exact user intent, nor Facebook at targeting audience by exact user profile.

User profiles are primarily useful to build up a picture of user intent.

User interests, which Reddit possesses, are another way to do that.

It's not obvious to me the disparity in valuation should be so great.

Re:Y Combinator Top Companies List 2019 by jaequery on Thursday October 03, 2019 @12:54AM (#21143854)
Almost every app is pretty much a Create Read Update Delete app!