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Re:Why It’s Hard for Startups to Create Wealth in Europe by rusticpenn on Wednesday October 02, 2019 @07:08AM (#21135136)
There is this 1 € GmBH concept, where there is almost no paper work.
Re:Why It’s Hard for Startups to Create Wealth in Europe by AllegedAlec on Wednesday October 02, 2019 @07:19AM (#21135207)
Which doesn't exist in the Netherlands. As a BV (the Dutch equivalent of a GmBH), you're obligated to have a CEO-equivalent person, which you're by law forced to pay a market-conform salary, or, even if you're not doing this, you are still forced to pay taxes as though you did.
Re:Why It’s Hard for Startups to Create Wealth in Europe by vekker on Wednesday October 02, 2019 @07:31AM (#21135273)
You have other options, like VOF or CV, if you have funding constraints.

Here in Belgium there's the "starters-BVBA" which is the equivalent of the 1 euro GmbH. Yes, there's paperwork and some investment involved, but IMHO it's a myth that starting a company in Europe is a huge hassle.

Re:Why It’s Hard for Startups to Create Wealth in Europe by AllegedAlec on Wednesday October 02, 2019 @07:43AM (#21135356)
> You have other options, like VOF or CV, if you have funding constraints.

Which isn't a real option; VOFs and CVs do not have the financial and legal separation of you and the company that a BV has.

Re:Why It’s Hard for Startups to Create Wealth in Europe by vekker on Thursday October 03, 2019 @05:11AM (#21145030)
Do you really need that though? If revenue is not large enough to start a BV? You can still get insurance and separate bank accounts.

I did it before with a Dutch partner, we just started a VOF together. Our plan was to turn it into a BV once revenue reached a certain point (it never did, so we didn't... it was a side hustle).

Re:Why It’s Hard for Startups to Create Wealth in Europe by himlion on Wednesday October 02, 2019 @09:27AM (#21136154)
True in general, but as long as you don't have a lot of equity in your BV yet, you don't have to do it. The tax man won't force you to go broke paying yourself a Market-rate salary.
Re:Why It’s Hard for Startups to Create Wealth in Europe by rsto on Wednesday October 02, 2019 @07:14AM (#21135182)
The 1€ GmBH isn't available in all (most?) European countries. I know that Germany introduced them a couple of years ago. It's great if you live in the country where you register the GmbH, but it can get lots of tax paper work quickly when your country of residence differs from the country where your company is registered.
Re:Why It’s Hard for Startups to Create Wealth in Europe by luckylion on Wednesday October 02, 2019 @07:21AM (#21135222)
The paperwork is reduced initially (though a GmbH isn't significantly more complicated - it's just a lot more expensive), but it's still treated the same with regards to taxes etc, so the same rules do apply. It's meant to lower the costs of having limited liability for simple circumstances, not so much cut the red tape.