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Re:Federal Judge Upholds Harvard's Race-Conscious Admissions... by nilkn on Wednesday October 02, 2019 @12:05AM (#21133339)
It’s almost 2020, not 1940. We have major cities that are majority nonwhite. We have entire statewide school districts that are mostly nonwhite. We have huge metropolitan areas that are mostly nonwhite. You can walk into an expensive luxury apartment complex in an immigrant heavy city and find tons of nonwhite people.
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Re:Federal Judge Upholds Harvard's Race-Conscious Admissions... by Volundr on Thursday October 03, 2019 @12:25AM (#21143697)
The Little Rock Nine was 1957. What do you believe happened to all those people who protested and threatened violence against those children? What do you think they taught their children?

The idea that we have somehow magically eradicated racism over the course of a single generation astounds me.

Seriously, it's almost 2020. You should get how close to the 1960s that is.

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Re:Federal Judge Upholds Harvard's Race-Conscious Admissions... by JPKab on Sunday October 06, 2019 @10:49PM (#21176902)
Just want to point out that in the same time period, Asians were heavily discriminated against in northern California.

And yet there is no trace of it now. I doubt you have set foot in Arkansas, because your implication that the attitudes haven't changed much is grossly inaccurate.

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Re:Federal Judge Upholds Harvard's Race-Conscious Admissions... by widowlark on Wednesday October 02, 2019 @12:59AM (#21133554)
And yet the data still shows widespread economic disparity due to discrimination
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Re:Federal Judge Upholds Harvard's Race-Conscious Admissions... by webgoat on Wednesday October 02, 2019 @02:12AM (#21133791)
The data also shows widespread economic disparity due to geography, yet Harvard doesn't give the poor kids an extra 200 points on their SAT. If Harvard actually cared about this issue they would create additional scholarship programs that review people on a case-by-case basis rather than a blanket policy.
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Re:Federal Judge Upholds Harvard's Race-Conscious Admissions... by mlevental on Wednesday October 02, 2019 @08:12AM (#21135531)
geography isn't a protected class. it's not a class at all. it's a set of circumstances. your skin color and the privileges or liabilities incurred are inescapable.
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Re:Federal Judge Upholds Harvard's Race-Conscious Admissions... by thaumasiotes on Wednesday October 02, 2019 @11:19AM (#21137388)
> geography isn't a protected class

Frequently it is. Many laws specifically protect "national origin".

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Re:Federal Judge Upholds Harvard's Race-Conscious Admissions... by shadowgovt on Wednesday October 02, 2019 @11:42AM (#21137656)
Kentucky isn't a "national origin."
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Re:Federal Judge Upholds Harvard's Race-Conscious Admissions... by f1refly on Wednesday October 02, 2019 @12:31PM (#21138286)
Kentucky doesn't has the support a specific national origin might have because there are no laws about that yet. It's an analogy.
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Re:Federal Judge Upholds Harvard's Race-Conscious Admissions... by shadowgovt on Wednesday October 02, 2019 @12:58PM (#21138543)
If you think "being from Kentucky" should be treated the same as "being from Ireland," you're welcome to make a case to your Congressperson.

Good luck.

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Re:Federal Judge Upholds Harvard's Race-Conscious Admissions... by throwaway_law on Thursday October 03, 2019 @09:13AM (#21146534)
>Many laws specifically protect "national origin"

What laws? The US Constitution provides significantly greater protections to US Citizens than foreign nationals, as many of rights are not extended to non-citizens.

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Re:Federal Judge Upholds Harvard's Race-Conscious Admissions... by mlevental on Wednesday October 02, 2019 @02:36PM (#21139438)
i love this kind of red herring: we're very obviously talking about intranational geography. as the person below me quips: kentucky isn't a nation of origin.
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Re:Federal Judge Upholds Harvard's Race-Conscious Admissions... by DuskStar on Wednesday October 02, 2019 @01:17PM (#21138717)
> And yet the data still shows widespread economic disparity due to discrimination

The data shows widespread economic disparity. It does not show the cause, which may or may not be discrimination.

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