Re:A Blue Collar Slob’s Introduction to the Rare Oakland Man...
by whyenot on Sunday September 22, 2019 @10:15AM
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I never would have expected to see a Crime Pays But Botany Doesn't videos posted here. He has a whole series of videos. The language can be a little rough, but the videos are filled with interesting and accurate botanical information.
Re:A Blue Collar Slob’s Introduction to the Rare Oakland Man...
by montalbano on Sunday September 22, 2019 @11:02AM
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Indeed, I wasn't sure whether to submit. But given Hacker News' purview of anything that gratifies one's intellectual curiosity I felt strongly that it fitted in.
Re:A Blue Collar Slob’s Introduction to the Rare Oakland Man...
by davidw on Sunday September 22, 2019 @12:01PM
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Something kind of off the beaten path is way better than a lot of things. It's interesting and informative and isn't trying to make a point in some controversy.
Re:A Blue Collar Slob’s Introduction to the Rare Oakland Man...
by pbhjpbhj on Sunday September 22, 2019 @04:33PM
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>Specifically, edaphology is the study in how soils influence and interact on/with living things, especially those of plants. It is the study of the ecological relationship soil has with land cultivation practices and plants. //
Re:A Blue Collar Slob’s Introduction to the Rare Oakland Man...
by MaysonL on Sunday September 22, 2019 @07:53PM
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There was an astronomy prof at my college who collected Chaplin (and other silent) movies and would show them throughout the year, with his wonderful ragtime piano accompaniment.
Re:A Blue Collar Slob’s Introduction to the Rare Oakland Man...
by monkeycantype on Sunday September 22, 2019 @05:57PM
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This sounds like something I'm going to like.
My uncle, who once taught ancient greek at johns hopkins, explained to me the ancient greek understanding of sacred and profane was that profane was the normal relationship with reality, and what was outside of that was sacred. The example he gave was that in order to be executed, prisoners first had to be made sacred, so that killing them wasn't a transgression.
Re:A Blue Collar Slob’s Introduction to the Rare Oakland Man...
by rendall on Sunday September 22, 2019 @10:18AM
(#21041466)
I'm ashamed to admit I was put off at first by the heavy Chicago accent, but holy shit this was interesting and informative, and the fellow knows his botany.
I liked, subscribed, and "hit that bell" as the youtubers say these days.
Re:A Blue Collar Slob’s Introduction to the Rare Oakland Man...
by MisterTea on Sunday September 22, 2019 @02:33PM
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> I'm ashamed to admit I was put off at first by the heavy Chicago accent,
As someone with a thick NYC accent it's gratifying to see someone else with a rough appearance and thick accent dish out some knowledge. I only watched the video for a few min and already I see tattoos and hear cursing. Most people would probably write this man off as unintelligent and of low class. I myself have had to mask my accent in some situations as I've been told it makes me sound "common". (fuck you) And although I don't have any tattoos, I know plenty of people who look down on them. I worked for a guy who forced employees with visible arm tattoos to wear long sleeve shirts. It's amazing how many so-called progressive people still espouse classist bigitroy.
Re:A Blue Collar Slob’s Introduction to the Rare Oakland Man...
by MisterTea on Sunday September 22, 2019 @07:18PM
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Oh, hmmm, appears I'm being modded down in response to a perceived attack on the GP, rendall. Wasn't my intent. The fuck you was a kind of "people who think like that can get fucked" and so was the classist remark. Nothing was directed towards rendall.
Re:A Blue Collar Slob’s Introduction to the Rare Oakland Man...
by ljm on Sunday September 22, 2019 @03:31PM
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I'm not from the US so I don't have the ear for accents, but my first impression was that this YouTube channel is basically Tony Soprano's account of the afterlife. He finally got out and found himself doing botany in North California.
It made me enjoy the videos much more.
Seriously though, I actually find this much more engaging. You can see where the passion is and not being afraid of being yourself gives makes it so authentic. The guy just fuckin' loves his botany and shit.
Re:A Blue Collar Slob’s Introduction to the Rare Oakland Man...
by rendall on Saturday September 28, 2019 @03:27PM
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Tony Soprano was Jersey Shore Italian. It hits the TH sound a bit softer, with the tongue a bit closer to the front towards the teeth. The Chicago accent hits that sound with a hard D, with the tongue pressing the palate further back from the teeth. Also, the S sound is harder, too, especially at the end of a word.
There's nothing wrong with his accent at all! I just wasn't used to it, and it sounded like a fake Bronx accent to me at first, until I parsed it and realized it was probably a Chicago accent.
Re:A Blue Collar Slob’s Introduction to the Rare Oakland Man...
by pbhjpbhj on Sunday September 22, 2019 @05:14PM
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I'm just on the "Alligator Lizards ..." video and he's asking "are you learning anything here [about "MFLs!] or are you just, like, hearing that silly fucking accent".
Honestly, this guy is great. So knowledgeable, such a lively delivery, so inspiring.
Re:A Blue Collar Slob’s Introduction to the Rare Oakland Man...
by ljm on Sunday September 22, 2019 @03:28PM
(#21043365)
I'm not from the US so I don't have the ear for accents, but my first impression was that this YouTube channel is basically Tony Soprano's account of the afterlife. He finally got out and found himself doing botany in North California.
Re:A Blue Collar Slob’s Introduction to the Rare Oakland Man...
by ljm on Sunday September 22, 2019 @03:30PM
(#21043385)
I'm not from the US so I don't have the ear for accents, but my first impression was that this YouTube channel is basically Tony Soprano's account of the afterlife. He finally got out and found himself doing botany in North California.
It made me enjoy the videos much more.
Seriously though, I actually find this much more engaging. You can see where the passion is and not being afraid of being yourself gives makes it so authentic. The guy just fuckin' loves his botany.
Re:A Blue Collar Slob’s Introduction to the Rare Oakland Man...
by rendall on Sunday September 22, 2019 @01:28PM
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I don't have a problem with accents at all.
I think, at first, I thought he was faking or exaggerating his accent for effect. Then I realized I wasn't familiar with the Chicago accent enough to know what was real or exaggerated. Then I decided to just listen to the guy and forget about the accent. All this happened within about 10-15 seconds.
In retrospect, I am super familiar with and rather fond of the Bronx, Brooklyn and Boston accents; maybe for me the Chicago accent falls into a kind of uncanny valley where it's close to those other accents to sound almost the same, but different enough to sound "weird" and "fake".
But, the more I watch these videos, the more his accent will be familiar to me.
Re:A Blue Collar Slob’s Introduction to the Rare Oakland Man...
by sk5t on Sunday September 22, 2019 @07:35PM
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For sorta-realistic Chicago accents, watch and enjoy the movie "The Fugitive" with Harrison Ford. For big ol' jokey Chicago accent, the "Superfans" SNL sketches.
Re:A Blue Collar Slob’s Introduction to the Rare Oakland Man...
by musclecrab on Sunday September 22, 2019 @06:09PM
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Tony Santoro's my dude! I like to think if I had a cranky botanist uncle from Chicago this would be him.
I remember, probably the first of his videos I stumbled across on YouTube. The botany knowledge and quips gave me chuckles, then for the end piece, a call for donations: "so if you wanna make a donation, my venmo is 'societyishell'".
damn near killed me. the subscribe button was clicked.
Re:A Blue Collar Slob’s Introduction to the Rare Oakland Man...
by davidw on Sunday September 22, 2019 @12:32PM
(#21042221)
I love that vegetation and landscape - the oaks and madrones, and higher up, pines, with lots of grassy meadows. It starts in southern Oregon and extends south in fits and starts.
Re:A Blue Collar Slob’s Introduction to the Rare Oakland Man...
by inamberclad on Sunday September 22, 2019 @03:43PM
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Love this guy - I don't think most people realize how extraordinarily rich the natural life is in the Bay Area. I went on a tour of a restored part of the marshes and it was incredible - Ospreys and Seals in the South Bay!
Re:A Blue Collar Slob’s Introduction to the Rare Oakland Man...
by chrisweekly on Sunday September 22, 2019 @03:31PM
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Tangent: all you tree-loving readers should pick up Richard Powers's latest, "The Overstory: A Novel". It's beautifully written (deservedly won the 2019 Pulitzer), and is all about trees.
Re:A Blue Collar Slob’s Introduction to the Rare Oakland Man...
by zer00eyz on Sunday September 22, 2019 @06:53PM
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Seeing this here just clued me in to why I love this channel so much.
There has always been a "cultural" association that inteliect has to be complete. That to be educated is to be well spoken. The fact that there is the inherit counter point between knowledge and delivery makes it entrancing.
Re:A Blue Collar Slob’s Introduction to the Rare Oakland Man...
by wahern on Monday September 23, 2019 @12:35AM
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The accent is a bit of a shtick. In a short news piece from a Chicago TV station his accent is much more subdued. Not surprising as I've never heard someone with that thick of a Chicago accent outside an SNL skit.
Re:A Blue Collar Slob’s Introduction to the Rare Oakland Man...
by rootw0rm on Sunday September 22, 2019 @09:05PM
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interesting. I have manzanitas all over my property up here in Anza, CA. Their bark isn't smooth though. It's rough and it peels off in thin papery strips everywhere.
Re:A Blue Collar Slob’s Introduction to the Rare Oakland Man...
by enahs-sf on Sunday September 22, 2019 @02:58PM
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I stumbled across a beautiful grove of these manzanitas once up by pinehurst where Alameda county meets Contra Costa. They are a beautiful species and do look rather alien compared to the rest of the flora around.
That's a new word for me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02m_oByCJ8A
https://www.swarthmore.edu/a-brief-history/1963-astronomer-p...
https://aas.org/obituaries/peter-van-de-kamp-1901-1995
This also is a good prerequisite to understand Girard’s work.
I liked, subscribed, and "hit that bell" as the youtubers say these days.
As someone with a thick NYC accent it's gratifying to see someone else with a rough appearance and thick accent dish out some knowledge. I only watched the video for a few min and already I see tattoos and hear cursing. Most people would probably write this man off as unintelligent and of low class. I myself have had to mask my accent in some situations as I've been told it makes me sound "common". (fuck you) And although I don't have any tattoos, I know plenty of people who look down on them. I worked for a guy who forced employees with visible arm tattoos to wear long sleeve shirts. It's amazing how many so-called progressive people still espouse classist bigitroy.
It made me enjoy the videos much more.
Seriously though, I actually find this much more engaging. You can see where the passion is and not being afraid of being yourself gives makes it so authentic. The guy just fuckin' loves his botany and shit.
There's nothing wrong with his accent at all! I just wasn't used to it, and it sounded like a fake Bronx accent to me at first, until I parsed it and realized it was probably a Chicago accent.
Honestly, this guy is great. So knowledgeable, such a lively delivery, so inspiring.
It made me enjoy the videos much more.
It made me enjoy the videos much more.
Seriously though, I actually find this much more engaging. You can see where the passion is and not being afraid of being yourself gives makes it so authentic. The guy just fuckin' loves his botany.
I think, at first, I thought he was faking or exaggerating his accent for effect. Then I realized I wasn't familiar with the Chicago accent enough to know what was real or exaggerated. Then I decided to just listen to the guy and forget about the accent. All this happened within about 10-15 seconds.
In retrospect, I am super familiar with and rather fond of the Bronx, Brooklyn and Boston accents; maybe for me the Chicago accent falls into a kind of uncanny valley where it's close to those other accents to sound almost the same, but different enough to sound "weird" and "fake".
But, the more I watch these videos, the more his accent will be familiar to me.
I remember, probably the first of his videos I stumbled across on YouTube. The botany knowledge and quips gave me chuckles, then for the end piece, a call for donations: "so if you wanna make a donation, my venmo is 'societyishell'".
damn near killed me. the subscribe button was clicked.
Also, https://www.laspilitas.com/ is a great resource as well as a nursery providing CA native plants.
There has always been a "cultural" association that inteliect has to be complete. That to be educated is to be well spoken. The fact that there is the inherit counter point between knowledge and delivery makes it entrancing.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arctostaphylos