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Re:TSMC: 3nm EUV Development Progress Going Well by JohnJamesRambo on Friday September 20, 2019 @11:02PM (#21033211)
What will we do below 3 nm?
Re:TSMC: 3nm EUV Development Progress Going Well by Mathnerd314 on Saturday September 21, 2019 @02:23AM (#21033828)
Carbon nanotubes, graphene, photonic chips, more involved silicon designs.

There's no shortage of ideas, just uncertain ROIs.

Re:TSMC: 3nm EUV Development Progress Going Well by agumonkey on Saturday September 21, 2019 @02:31AM (#21033857)
The 7-5nm was said to be so much a barrier before. I'm sure this will unleash a ton of capital and brains to keep digging.

ps: I heard spintronics and neutronics caught some wind on paper

Re:TSMC: 3nm EUV Development Progress Going Well by TomMarius on Saturday September 21, 2019 @03:09AM (#21033961)
There is a new exciting paper about DNA computers as well.

https://www.chemistryworld.com/news/leap-forward-for-molecul...

Re:TSMC: 3nm EUV Development Progress Going Well by agumonkey on Saturday September 21, 2019 @03:51AM (#21034057)
Hah, Woods of course. Two years ago a previous colleague of him hosted a talk in Paris. I got a peek of the work it was truly staggering. But the guy told me they were too instable at scale so far. Sounds like a solid hint at the future though.

ps: do you work in this field ?

Re:TSMC: 3nm EUV Development Progress Going Well by TomMarius on Saturday September 21, 2019 @03:56AM (#21034070)
Not at all, just an interested layperson (I'm in 'normal' IT). My partner studies evolutionary genetics (or something like that), so we talk frequently about biology. There is another DNA computing paper that was very interesting published earlier this year by another group, but I can't find it now. I think it was in Nature.
Re:TSMC: 3nm EUV Development Progress Going Well by The_rationalist on Saturday September 21, 2019 @06:01AM (#21034430)
Actually spintronics unlike others is ready to come to mainstream, through MRAM.
Re:TSMC: 3nm EUV Development Progress Going Well by zaroth on Friday September 20, 2019 @11:12PM (#21033249)
Presumably 2 nm.
Re:TSMC: 3nm EUV Development Progress Going Well by Filligree on Friday September 20, 2019 @11:39PM (#21033341)
How many silicon atoms is that?
Re:TSMC: 3nm EUV Development Progress Going Well by PixyMisa on Saturday September 21, 2019 @02:15AM (#21033812)
The funny thing is, it doesn't matter. "2nm" is just marketing; nothing about it is actually 2nm in size. But that's okay, because that was true at 7nm and 14nm and even at 28nm.

So what 2nm really means is "better than 3nm".

Re:TSMC: 3nm EUV Development Progress Going Well by JohnJamesRambo on Saturday September 21, 2019 @02:27AM (#21033845)
Why do we all go along with this charade? It’s so silly and unscientific. Why can’t we just call the things correctly?
Re:TSMC: 3nm EUV Development Progress Going Well by imtringued on Saturday September 21, 2019 @05:18AM (#21034309)
It is the same reason why we use millimeters of steel as a measurement of the armor performance of tanks even though they use composites of different materials.

Because it is easier to compare two numbers even if they are meaningless in reality.

Re:TSMC: 3nm EUV Development Progress Going Well by madez on Saturday September 21, 2019 @05:59AM (#21034420)
It would be better to stay quiet instead of comparing things incorrectly.
Re:TSMC: 3nm EUV Development Progress Going Well by gameswithgo on Saturday September 21, 2019 @09:21AM (#21035218)
there is no correct single number to use
Re:TSMC: 3nm EUV Development Progress Going Well by dooglius on Saturday September 21, 2019 @09:53AM (#21035382)
SRAM density is a pretty good single meaningful number
Re:TSMC: 3nm EUV Development Progress Going Well by sschueller on Saturday September 21, 2019 @04:36AM (#21034197)
Isn't the smallest trace/spacing 2nm? Most is larger but 2nm is possible for some traces/spaces.
Re:TSMC: 3nm EUV Development Progress Going Well by bureaucrat on Friday September 20, 2019 @11:54PM (#21033392)
A silicon atom is 0.2nm.
Re:TSMC: 3nm EUV Development Progress Going Well by imtringued on Saturday September 21, 2019 @05:22AM (#21034323)
As many as you want.
Re:TSMC: 3nm EUV Development Progress Going Well by boyadjian on Saturday September 21, 2019 @01:51AM (#21033737)
Nothing, we will stay at 3 nm.