Silicon Valley is terrified of California’s privacy law

Re:Silicon Valley is terrified of California’s privacy law by m463 on Thursday September 19, 2019 @05:31PM (#21020945)

I wonder if that will have unintended consequences.

It might inadvertently assign a price to the data collected.

It also shows a direct discrimination against poor and/or young people who might not afford the service.

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Re:Silicon Valley is terrified of California’s privacy law by whatshisface on Thursday September 19, 2019 @06:02PM (#21021171)

>It also shows a direct discrimination against poor and/or young people who might not afford the service.

As opposed to what, treating everybody badly? McDonalds discriminates between people who can afford a Big Mac and people who can't, and that's not a problem.

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Re:Silicon Valley is terrified of California’s privacy law by m463 on Thursday September 19, 2019 @08:47PM (#21022249)

Poor people can get other services at a discount, for instance electricity, internet or cable service.

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Re:Silicon Valley is terrified of California’s privacy law by aliveupstairs on Thursday September 19, 2019 @06:54PM (#21021560)

The internet is not the same as a food place. People expect and have gotten used to services for free. If you put a price tag on a software library, you obviously discriminate against students and poor people.

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Re:Silicon Valley is terrified of California’s privacy law by duckMuppet on Friday September 20, 2019 @02:43AM (#21023826)

Actually, it kinda is the same.

If you don't have the money to buy a big mac, you either eat a cheeseburger on the dollar menu or go home and cook a burger yourself.

If you don't have the money for the software library, you either choose a lesser library, or go write your own.

A larger problem however is many are considering the internet a fundamental human right, which it isn't. Might be nice to have, but a fundamental right it is not.

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Re:Silicon Valley is terrified of California’s privacy law by buboard on Thursday September 19, 2019 @05:35PM (#21020970)

There is already a price in the data collected (for FB i think $120 / year). I think making it public is a good thing. I think the law will also force facebook to offer ad free subscription plans, something people have been asking for. My bet is nobody is going to use them though.

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Re:Silicon Valley is terrified of California’s privacy law by zawerf on Thursday September 19, 2019 @05:49PM (#21021065)

I didn't believe that number but it seems like it's true if you restrict it to just north america monthly active users: https://thespring.io/investing/facebook-makes-more-revenue-p...

Average revenue per user is around $25 for global users.

This brings up a related issue that not all users are equal. Even in non-data mining business models, you still have some segment of the users subsidizing another.

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Re:Silicon Valley is terrified of California’s privacy law by cbhl on Thursday September 19, 2019 @05:33PM (#21020963)

You need parental permission to collect data from young people in the US anyway (see COPPA). But an age gate and asking for a credit card number are very different levels of sign up friction for a young person to try to get around.

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Re:Silicon Valley is terrified of California’s privacy law by wmf on Thursday September 19, 2019 @10:37PM (#21022829)

For a short time AT&T GigaFiber was charging $30/month to opt out of surveillance and I thought they can't possibly be selling my data for that much. I wonder if this new law will also lead to some unrealistically high prices.

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