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Re:Smart TVs sending sensitive user data to Netflix and Face... by cyanbane on Wednesday September 18, 2019 @08:43PM (#21012094)
How do Doctor's that use TVs like this in meeting rooms get around HIPAA? or other places with PII, etc? With so much stuff being thrown to TVs now, a lot of times they are inheriently monitors, and there are very few people who think taking a screenshot of a monitor is not invasive.
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Re:Smart TVs sending sensitive user data to Netflix and Face... by Cthulhu_ on Thursday September 19, 2019 @04:20AM (#21014353)
I'm fairly sure there's a line of TVs for "industrial" purposes (e.g. the ones you see in airports) that are both hardened and lack any privacy invasive features - however, they come at a premium.

Which is always the issue - people want a 65" TV, but they don't want to spend $6000 on it. But if they can have it for $2000 (for example) they're all over it, glossing over the mostly unobtrusive privacy invasion that goes with it.

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Re:Smart TVs sending sensitive user data to Netflix and Face... by TeMPOraL on Thursday September 19, 2019 @08:06AM (#21015385)
And if there's a vendor that can sell that same TV without the privacy invasion for $4000, it can't even compete. This way, honest players are priced out of the market. This pattern is so predictable that I maintain advertising needs to be aggressively curtailed.
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Re:Smart TVs sending sensitive user data to Netflix and Face... by sjwright on Wednesday September 18, 2019 @09:54PM (#21012482)
Maybe insurance companies could be our ally here. Warn them of the risks and get them to ensure all hospital TVs do not get internet access.
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Re:Smart TVs sending sensitive user data to Netflix and Face... by chrisweekly on Wednesday September 18, 2019 @10:20PM (#21012619)
There go the already-terrible tv options in hospital rooms.
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Re:Smart TVs sending sensitive user data to Netflix and Face... by paulie_a on Thursday September 19, 2019 @11:17AM (#21016998)
After spending a significant amount of time in the hospital I found a portable router, Android TV/Chromecast and a universal tv remote to be really useful

They are in my go bag now for when I have to go last minute and get checked in

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Re:Smart TVs sending sensitive user data to Netflix and Face... by bakuninsbart on Thursday September 19, 2019 @03:12AM (#21014021)
Not sure if you're being serious, but being in extreme pain and/or drugged out of your mind on painkillers, TV is often the only good thing to do in that situation. Podcasts work too, but something stupid please.
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Re:Smart TVs sending sensitive user data to Netflix and Face... by sjwright on Thursday September 19, 2019 @12:07AM (#21013197)
There shouldn't be any overlap between TVs used for entertainment and TVs used for medical purposes.
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Re:Smart TVs sending sensitive user data to Netflix and Face... by ceejayoz on Wednesday September 18, 2019 @08:46PM (#21012113)
The article cites things like location, IP addresses, and the content being watched.

That's a far cry from relaying an audio recording of a surgical conference containing HIPAA-sensitive data.

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Re:Smart TVs sending sensitive user data to Netflix and Face... by cyanbane on Wednesday September 18, 2019 @09:13PM (#21012247)
No, the above comment (not article) mentions screenshots. If I have an x-ray of someone on my screen along with patient name then how is that not personal information that could be screen shotted and sent to some endpoint?
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Re:Smart TVs sending sensitive user data to Netflix and Face... by dotancohen on Thursday September 19, 2019 @05:26AM (#21014636)
Even if the contents of the radiology scan are not included, the mere fact that someone _had_ a radiology scan or any other medical procedure or exam might be important.

Insurance might be interested, for one party. Or parents. Or pimps.

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Re:Smart TVs sending sensitive user data to Netflix and Face... by ceejayoz on Wednesday September 18, 2019 @09:29PM (#21012341)
That would be. Is there evidence screenshots like this are being sent?
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Re:Smart TVs sending sensitive user data to Netflix and Face... by glenneroo on Wednesday September 18, 2019 @08:58PM (#21012175)
The article mentions this bit:

> The researchers also found that other smart devices including speakers and cameras were sending user data to dozens of third parties including Spotify and Microsoft.

Maybe someone can find the referenced studies to see what data is actually sent...

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Re:Smart TVs sending sensitive user data to Netflix and Face... by ceejayoz on Wednesday September 18, 2019 @08:59PM (#21012179)
That the devices have speakers and cameras doesn't mean they're sending the speaker and camera data to those third-parties.
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Re:Smart TVs sending sensitive user data to Netflix and Face... by dgzl on Wednesday September 18, 2019 @09:33PM (#21012363)
actually, I'm reading this entirely different...

> other smart devices including speakers and cameras

In my perspective, these are other devices entirely, like smart speakers and those video hubs the FAANG companies produce, or maybe entrance cameras.. Some reasoning: what kind of television doesn't have speakers.

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Re:Smart TVs sending sensitive user data to Netflix and Face... by anieberry on Thursday September 19, 2019 @05:40AM (#21014694)
I've been using a Samsung digital signage screen as a 'TV' for years because I don't want to have to deal with all of this smart TV nonsense.
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Re:Smart TVs sending sensitive user data to Netflix and Face... by danpalmer on Thursday September 19, 2019 @05:03AM (#21014534)
We buy super cheap TVs for our meeting rooms, and then just never connect them to the internet. They have Netflix etc on them, but none of it works. We then just use HDMI or Chromecasts that are provisioned on the company GSuite account.
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