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Re:100 million dollars to reshape the economics of the web by danShumway on Tuesday September 17, 2019 @12:09AM (#20991429)
General shoutout to anyone who's less lazy than me: has there been any good research on whether or not advertising increases discretionary spending, and if so by how much?

The Tide example here makes me feel a little bit weird, because Tide pods in particular are a pretty bad deal for laundry detergent. If people are buying Tide pods instead of generic laundry detergent, it seems to me that the advertising isn't just shifting money around, it's actually increasing spending. But it could just be bad instincts, I don't know of any actual real research on the topic.

Another way of phrasing this -- if Apple stopped advertising iPhones, some Apple users would shift over to Android, which (ignoring cost differences) theoretically would just mean they gave the same money to someone else. But would there be another contingent that stayed on iPhone and just stopped buying new hardware every year? How large would a contingent like that be?

Re:100 million dollars to reshape the economics of the web by C4stor on Tuesday September 17, 2019 @11:53AM (#20996690)
A lot of advertising is not meant to increase discretionary spending, but to make you pick product A over product B when the moment comes to choose over alternatives.

At the very basic level of it, advertising is giving out the information that your product exists, because otherwise, nobody would even know its existence.

Your example for Apple is very good, it's very highly probable that some persons only switch to newer iPhones when they hear the news it exists and see the keynotes/articles about it, even though there is nothing wrong with their phone, and they may not be thinking about changing it.

Re:100 million dollars to reshape the economics of the web by Fjolsvith on Saturday September 21, 2019 @04:41PM (#21037816)
> The Tide example here makes me feel a little bit weird, because Tide pods in particular are a pretty bad deal for laundry detergent.

For my wife, the pods are a lifestyle upgrade over the regular powdered pour out detergent. The convenience and effort saved justifies the more expensive packaging.

I'm a firm believer in adopting new processes or products that reduce the amount of time required to perform my daily functions. They pay off in the long run.

Re:100 million dollars to reshape the economics of the web by mcv on Tuesday September 17, 2019 @07:58AM (#20993910)
I think advertising increases discretionary spending, it just redirects it.

When smoking ads were banned, profits for cigarette companies went up, because they didn't have to spend money on marketing anymore. Addicts still kept buying them anyway. Previously, smoking ads were to get people to buy your brand rather than some competing brand.

Re:100 million dollars to reshape the economics of the web by Qworg on Tuesday September 17, 2019 @02:12AM (#20992142)
Here's some of Google's positioning on it - think of it as an arms race: https://www.thinkwithgoogle.com/marketing-resources/micro-mo...
Re:100 million dollars to reshape the economics of the web by OGWhales on Tuesday September 17, 2019 @02:05AM (#20992096)
I’ve always figured they wouldn’t throw so much money at it if it wasn’t working. I assume the advertising makes them massive profits.

I’m sure there are pretty of studies out there.