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Re:The Rise of the Electric Scooter by Symbiote on Thursday September 12, 2019 @04:57PM (#20956368)
In Copenhagen it's often the opposite: the rest of the group came by bike, they're within 20m of the current bar, the person on foot will have to turn up later. Or we all walk.

(Also, the suburban trains and taxis carry bikes for free.)

Re:The Rise of the Electric Scooter by scarejunba on Thursday September 12, 2019 @05:21PM (#20956594)
What's bike theft like in Copenhagen? I have two bikes but I drive to brunch because I'm afraid of losing my bike to a thief and parking is easier to deal with than having to carry my lock.
Re:The Rise of the Electric Scooter by Symbiote on Friday September 13, 2019 @02:22AM (#20959681)
Leave the lock at work, locked to the rack or a fence. That might not work for brunch.

Most people use either old or fairly cheap (<€500) city bikes. We only lock the rear wheel; if you want to you can pick up the bike and walk off with it.

Some people do have nicer bikes, and they chain the bikes to something solid. I did this for 6 months when my city bike was new.

Re:The Rise of the Electric Scooter by 0xfaded on Friday September 13, 2019 @01:48AM (#20959521)
Most bikes are beaters and wouldn't be worth stealing for it's value, although I've been told every Dane has stolen a bike once in their life when in need of transport.
Re:The Rise of the Electric Scooter by derefr on Thursday September 12, 2019 @05:44PM (#20956793)
> Also, the suburban trains and taxis carry bikes for free.

Sure, but how many will fit on one train/taxi? Here in Vancouver we have two bike-slots per bus and ~4 per train (which is actually just general accessibility-device space, for e.g. powered-wheelchairs, and is almost always taken already.)

Re:The Rise of the Electric Scooter by Symbiote on Friday September 13, 2019 @02:10AM (#20959623)
Taxis take two.

Wikipedia says a suburban train takes 46 bikes. I should check, as the press release from the company doesn't give a figure.

I don't commute by train, so I don't know if that's still not enough. Many people do leave a second bicycle at the station.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cycling_in_Copenhagen

https://www.dsb.dk/om-dsb/presse/nyheder/mere-plads-til-cykl...

Re:The Rise of the Electric Scooter by 6gvONxR4sf7o on Thursday September 12, 2019 @08:55PM (#20958079)
Is that the case in the winter too? I just started bike commuting in SF and have been wondering how it works in bike oriented colder countries when it starts raining/snowing.
Re:The Rise of the Electric Scooter by stevesimmons on Friday September 13, 2019 @03:13AM (#20959889)
In Netherlands nearly everyone cycles for nearly all local trips all year round regardless of the weather. Nothing beats the convenience of a bike.

I use mine for every trip longer than a 5 minute walk and less than a 45 mins bike ride. That encompasses the whole of Amsterdam and its outlying suburbs.

In bad weather, people have suitable rain gear and accept getting a bit wet. Or cycle with umbrellas. As the Dutch say, "there's no such thing as bad weather, just bad clothing".

Re:The Rise of the Electric Scooter by RWSen on Friday September 13, 2019 @04:24AM (#20960223)
Here in the Netherlands during winter, bike paths are cleared/salted before most residential streets. That together with the sheer amount of bicycles keeps all mayor bike paths clear enough, though it does get slippery.
Re:The Rise of the Electric Scooter by journalctl on Thursday September 12, 2019 @11:40PM (#20958994)
Places with good bike infrastructure take care of it (e.g. plowing).
Re:The Rise of the Electric Scooter by josephpmay on Friday September 13, 2019 @12:48AM (#20959262)
but it's still cold as fuck
Re:The Rise of the Electric Scooter by journalctl on Friday September 13, 2019 @01:12AM (#20959357)
Well sure. I mean, bundling up is possible, just ask anyone in Chicago. My hunch is that places with healthy bike infrastructure are also dense enough to make most trips short, minimizing time spent outside.
Re:The Rise of the Electric Scooter by Symbiote on Friday September 13, 2019 @02:15AM (#20959644)
Winter in Copenhagen means –5°C, so it's not really the same. It is more humid than the continental USA.

But yes, the cycle paths are ploughed (often before the roadway). Nevertheless, bus and train use increases.

For cycling a long time in the rain, some people use overtrousers or other waterproof clothing.

Re:The Rise of the Electric Scooter by tokai on Friday September 13, 2019 @04:04AM (#20960122)
Just means you can bike faster without sweating.