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Re: Let's Encrypt makes certs for 30% of web domains by buboard on Friday September 06, 2019 @03:44PM (#20899198)
Letsencrypt doesnt issue certs to Iran, Syria, Cuba, Sudan et al.
Re: Let's Encrypt makes certs for 30% of web domains by jaas on Friday September 06, 2019 @04:07PM (#20899409)
Yes we do. On what basis did you make that statement?

We comply with U.S. sanctions by not issuing to entities on the SDN list, but that doesn't prevent us from serving the vast majority of people in those countries.

Re: Let's Encrypt makes certs for 30% of web domains by buboard on Friday September 06, 2019 @06:38PM (#20900505)
indeed I misread it. you don't provide certs for the governments of those countries (still a limitation tbh). I got that from this post of one of your employees

https://community.letsencrypt.org/t/certificates-for-us-sanc...

Re: Let's Encrypt makes certs for 30% of web domains by henryfjordan on Friday September 06, 2019 @04:31PM (#20899602)
How do you know if someone is on the list?

When I registered my domain I got WHOIS protection and then LE just made sure I owned the domain. There was no asking about who I am or where I reside or what lists I might be on.

Re: Let's Encrypt makes certs for 30% of web domains by jaas on Friday September 06, 2019 @04:43PM (#20899713)
You can search the list here:

https://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/sanctions/sdn-list/...

Some entries have specific domains associated with them, but we are obligated to not serve any domain directly associated with (i.e. controlled by) an SDN entity, not just those listed.

If we become aware that we may be serving an entity on the SDN list (often via someone emailing us) we have to conduct an investigation which may result in termination of service.

Re: Let's Encrypt makes certs for 30% of web domains by auslander on Saturday September 07, 2019 @02:54AM (#20902216)
> We comply with U.S. sanctions

What are good non-US CAs?

Re: Let's Encrypt makes certs for 30% of web domains by falcongod082 on Friday September 06, 2019 @11:12PM (#20901553)
Well that's interesting, so these are political certs?
Re: Let's Encrypt makes certs for 30% of web domains by IfOnlyYouKnew on Saturday September 07, 2019 @05:48AM (#20902814)
no, they are legal certs.
Re: Let's Encrypt makes certs for 30% of web domains by amiraliakbari on Friday September 06, 2019 @04:32PM (#20899613)
I haven't checked their TOS, but practically there isn't any limitations in getting certificates from Iranian IPs or for ir domains. If there is any problem, it is that browser vendors/root CAs/etc are not willing to trust CAs in those countries.
Re: Let's Encrypt makes certs for 30% of web domains by manderley on Friday September 06, 2019 @03:53PM (#20899283)
That's due to US sanctions.
Re: Let's Encrypt makes certs for 30% of web domains by mcpherrinm on Friday September 06, 2019 @04:00PM (#20899354)
Right, that's another reason it would be good to have non-US competition.

It's not LE's fault or anything they can do about, but there's plenty of reasons to have alternative options.

Re: Let's Encrypt makes certs for 30% of web domains by dheera on Friday September 06, 2019 @04:35PM (#20899637)
Start a LetTheRestOfUsEncrypt.org based in a different country whose government isn't so full of themselves?

Or better yet, is there a way to start a decentralized organization itself so that no jurisdiction has absolute power over it?

Re: Let's Encrypt makes certs for 30% of web domains by henryfjordan on Friday September 06, 2019 @04:45PM (#20899732)
How are you going to trust that decentralized org? Is it just voting? Can we all vote to revoke anyone's cert at any time for no reason? What happens when someone performs a 51% attack and takes over google.com's cert?

CAs exist solely because you CAN trust them, otherwise what's the point? We'd just have every site self-sign and let the users choose who to trust.

Re: Let's Encrypt makes certs for 30% of web domains by JohnFen on Friday September 06, 2019 @06:43PM (#20900534)
> CAs exist solely because you CAN trust them, otherwise what's the point?

That's the idea, but in practice, I don't really trust the vast majority of them.

Re: Let's Encrypt makes certs for 30% of web domains by dheera on Friday September 06, 2019 @08:29PM (#20901021)
My thinking was that it would be similar to a GPG trust network.
Re: Let's Encrypt makes certs for 30% of web domains by tatersolid on Monday September 09, 2019 @10:13PM (#20924538)
We’ve seen nearly 30 years of web-of-trust failure and yet you still think it’s a workable idea?
Re: Let's Encrypt makes certs for 30% of web domains by rswail on Saturday September 07, 2019 @04:51AM (#20902626)
As far as I am aware, the only organizations that aren't under the jurisdiction of any nation state or authority are those sponsored by/derived from the United Nations.
Re: Let's Encrypt makes certs for 30% of web domains by tialaramex on Friday September 06, 2019 @04:07PM (#20899407)
Sure, but it would be reasonable for an outfit to (seek funding for) a CA that isn't subject to US sanction rules.

Of course there's a question of where you should put such a thing. Even Russians apparently don't find the idea of a Russian CA trustworthy (they expect that Putin would have his thumb on it, and who am I to argue?), a European CA is certainly not free of American influence, so where would this alternative be based? I don't have a good answer.