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Re:Google’s GDPR Workaround by amelius on Wednesday September 04, 2019 @10:13AM (#20877375)
Targeted ads are already a serious leak of information.

If somebody looks over my shoulder and sees the ads presented to me, they can infer things about me.

Also, if a malicious actor targets an ad to a group of people, and some of these people buy the advertised items, then the actor can infer things about those people not necessarily related to the items sold.

Re:Google’s GDPR Workaround by CoolGuySteve on Wednesday September 04, 2019 @10:24AM (#20877461)
At my last job the traffic was filtered through a proxy due to FINRA regulations. I’d see Portuguese ads for diabetes medication and there were 2 Brazilian guys in the office.

Seemed like a major HIPAA violation to me.

Re:Google’s GDPR Workaround by GavinMcG on Wednesday September 04, 2019 @11:28AM (#20878078)
HIPAA only keeps healthcare providers from sharing your information. It's not an omnibus shield for your health information. If Alice tells her coworker Bob that she had diabetes, it's not a HIPAA violation for Bob to tell Charlie.
Re:Google’s GDPR Workaround by hnarn on Wednesday September 04, 2019 @12:30PM (#20878799)
> HIPAA only keeps healthcare providers from sharing your information. It's not an omnibus shield for your health information.

Maybe not, but GDPR sure is.

Re:Google’s GDPR Workaround by drusepth on Wednesday September 04, 2019 @02:34PM (#20880090)
Is it really? If Alice tells Bob she has diabetes and Bob tells Charlie, is Bob in violation of GDPR?
Re:Google’s GDPR Workaround by nocturnial on Wednesday September 04, 2019 @04:18PM (#20880999)
Are Bob and/or Charlie the name of a person or of a company?

How you're using it, it sounds like Bob or Charlie in your mind is a person. I might be wrong in interpreting it that way. If so could you give another example where Bob and Charlie are companies and the information of Alice is part of a transaction.

Re:Google’s GDPR Workaround by drusepth on Wednesday September 04, 2019 @07:32PM (#20882440)
GP's comment paints Alice/Bob/Charlie as people:

>If Alice tells her coworker Bob that she had diabetes, it's not a HIPAA violation for Bob to tell Charlie.

I was responding to the parent comment's claim that it's not a HIPAA violation but rather a GDPR violation.

Re:Google’s GDPR Workaround by nudded on Wednesday September 04, 2019 @03:25PM (#20880551)
No, GDPR does not apply between 2 persons.
Re:Google’s GDPR Workaround by hnarn on Thursday September 05, 2019 @07:17AM (#20885588)
> Individuals can also face fines for GDPR violations if they use other parties' personal data for anything other than personal purposes.

https://www.coredna.com/blogs/gdpr-fines

Re:Google’s GDPR Workaround by jeena on Wednesday September 04, 2019 @11:44AM (#20878266)
It would have been a more funny story if it were ads for Viagra ;)
Re:Google’s GDPR Workaround by wongarsu on Wednesday September 04, 2019 @01:22PM (#20879363)
Because erectile dysfunction is funnier than diabetes?
Re:Google’s GDPR Workaround by MaxBarraclough on Saturday September 07, 2019 @05:42PM (#20906734)
Not really. Those sorts of ads are sent without targeting.
Re:Google’s GDPR Workaround by ahallock on Wednesday September 04, 2019 @11:06AM (#20877841)
> If somebody looks over my shoulder and sees the ads presented to me, they can infer things about me.

You have to take some personal responsibility, though. If they saw your Youtube recommendations or your Spotify playlist, they'd probably make inferences as well. That porn link in your history you forgot to clear? Be aware of who's watching and browse anonymously if you're concerned.

Re:Google’s GDPR Workaround by ta0987 on Wednesday September 04, 2019 @11:32AM (#20878125)
I've had ads for sketchy shit I googled at home on my personal computer show up on my work computer at the office.
Re:Google’s GDPR Workaround by NegativeK on Wednesday September 04, 2019 @12:40PM (#20878894)
Connecting personal accounts (Gmail, Chrome browser profiles) on a work computer is something that you should only do with careful thought.
Re:Google’s GDPR Workaround by adossi on Wednesday September 04, 2019 @12:26PM (#20878740)
I've had ads for things that I only just spoke about, out loud, to someone near me like a friend or family member, show up on a computer in a different country.
Re:Google’s GDPR Workaround by ahallock on Wednesday September 04, 2019 @01:20PM (#20879338)
I've had ads for things spoken about show up in FB. I have more of a libertarian mindset, but that really creeps me out and I think speech-based ads be outright banned due to privacy concerns. It's not so much the ads; it's being recorded and potentially having those recordings leak in a data breach.
Re:Google’s GDPR Workaround by mavhc on Wednesday September 04, 2019 @02:36PM (#20880112)
Or it's just one of 100 coincidences that happen to you every day.

Easy to prove, store a log of all your network traffic, and record all the audio you speak, then when you see a match, go back, find the proof, become world famous

Re:Google’s GDPR Workaround by ahallock on Wednesday September 04, 2019 @03:48PM (#20880744)
I stand corrected. I thought I had read this was actually happening, but it appears to only be speculation.
Re:Google’s GDPR Workaround by adossi on Tuesday September 10, 2019 @01:01PM (#20930402)
It was widely believed for literally years until the Senate Judiciary and Commerce committee hearing in 2018 where Zuck called it a 'conspiracy theory'. Since then it has been dismissed as such. My question is - if I personally observed it before I even heard about this 'theory', and thousands of others around the world also observed the same thing, why are we dismissing it as a 'conspiracy theory'? Just because Zuck labelled it as such? Why are we trusting him to tell us the truth again?
Re:Google’s GDPR Workaround by tantalor on Wednesday September 04, 2019 @11:08AM (#20877865)
"somebody looking over your shoulder" can see a lot more than you ads, like your private messages, bank info, medical info, etc.
Re:Google’s GDPR Workaround by amelius on Wednesday September 04, 2019 @11:42AM (#20878244)
Not if I'm just showing them a random website. The problem with targeted ads is, they show up at random websites.
Re:Google’s GDPR Workaround by komali2 on Wednesday September 04, 2019 @12:18PM (#20878651)
I dunno man. This reminds me of the time that someone at defcon said they found a vulnerability in my last company's product because it flashes a WiFi password to an iot device instead of making a user type it in.

"What if we capture the flashes and steal the password?"

Well, if you're positioned to capture the flashes, you're definitely positioned to just watch me type it in...

Re:Google’s GDPR Workaround by amelius on Wednesday September 04, 2019 @12:43PM (#20878924)
Would you be ok with it if your browsers at home, in the office and on your mobile phone always showed your bank balance on the top of the screen in a large font?

I assume most users would not. But they would be ok with their bank balance being shown if they specifically opened their bank website.

Re:Google’s GDPR Workaround by ryan93 on Wednesday September 04, 2019 @02:34PM (#20880097)
Why are so many people that paranoid. No one is gonna destroy your life because they saw your ads
Re:Google’s GDPR Workaround by rdbell on Wednesday September 04, 2019 @03:02PM (#20880348)
Imagine someone giving a presentation to room full of co-workers and a web ad comes up saying something like "Resubscribe to Cannabis Weekly Delivery and get 10% off."

It's not hard to imagine a person's career being affected by something like that.

Re:Google’s GDPR Workaround by drevil-v2 on Wednesday September 04, 2019 @05:14PM (#20881492)
What if I was anti-abortion or pro-trump in a progressive tech company? Would my co-workers feel more comfortable destroying my life then?
Re:Google’s GDPR Workaround by billyc74 on Wednesday September 04, 2019 @10:16AM (#20877404)
if someone looked over your shoulder and saw you browsing HN they could infer things too
Re:Google’s GDPR Workaround by thebouv on Wednesday September 04, 2019 @10:24AM (#20877457)
Yet, they choose to surf to HN.

They're not choosing to have targeted ads that share their info around the web and cause someone over their shoulder to infer things about them.

That's the point -- we should have that choice. And the default should be "no".

Re:Google’s GDPR Workaround by kupiakos on Wednesday September 04, 2019 @11:21AM (#20878003)
I understand the opt-in rather than opt-out, but does disabling Ads Personalization [1] not do what you're asking?

[1]: https://adssettings.google.com/authenticated?hl=en

Re:Google’s GDPR Workaround by tgragnato on Wednesday September 04, 2019 @12:09PM (#20878566)
No, a Google account shouldn’t be required.
Re:Google’s GDPR Workaround by drusepth on Wednesday September 04, 2019 @02:37PM (#20880120)
Why not? How else would Google know who not to track? It's not like they can identify you and remember that preference without a Google account...
Re:Google’s GDPR Workaround by superturkey650 on Wednesday September 04, 2019 @02:51PM (#20880249)
Yes, that's why targeted ads shouldn't be a thing unless it's opt-in (not necessarily my opinion but it seems to be the point the parent was making). At that point, to opt-in you can create a google account. Currently though, Google will attempt targeted ads on people without a Google account by trying to identify and track them through other means.

Ideally you would have site-specific or content-specific ads normally and personalized ads if you created an account and chose to opt-in.

Re:Google’s GDPR Workaround by pbhjpbhj on Wednesday September 04, 2019 @01:00PM (#20879115)
My children tease me about "being a hacker", by which they mean unlawfully breaching security of internet systems, because they've seen me reading "hacker news".
Re:Google’s GDPR Workaround by amelius on Wednesday September 04, 2019 @10:24AM (#20877462)
Yeah, but HN is not shown as part of every website out there.
Re:Google’s GDPR Workaround by samantohermes on Wednesday September 04, 2019 @10:36PM (#20883395)
The problem is if the person looking over your shoulder has power over you.