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Re:Tired of Stack Overflow by vasili111 on Monday September 02, 2019 @11:59AM (#20859877)
Here is my proposal for removing downvotes but people do not like it: https://meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/252338/downvote-sys...
Re:Tired of Stack Overflow by mLuby on Monday September 02, 2019 @12:43PM (#20860236)
I found the first answer insightful: https://meta.stackoverflow.com/a/252340/1862046

Roughly, it seems downvotes are used by people to indicate not enough effort has gone into the question (easily researched, duplicate question, confusing/poor english, etc).

So either all unflagged questions is valid and should be nurtured into clear, well-written queries or pointed to existing questions, or questions are to be judged* "good-faith" or "lazy" by users and the latter receive downvotes.

*This judgement is fixed in time; the question is not necessarily re-judged if improvements are made.

Re:Tired of Stack Overflow by aflag on Monday September 02, 2019 @03:03PM (#20861146)
What's the problem with being lazy? If you are even lazier, just don't answer. If it's a duplicate, just link it to the delicate question. Having useless questions shouldn't be a problem while searching for answers.
Re:Tired of Stack Overflow by waisbrot on Monday September 02, 2019 @03:25PM (#20861264)
The problem is that just looking through the queue of unanswered questions takes effort.

If I have a list of good, honestly-asked questions, I'm willing to look for a few that I know how to answer and answer them. If I have a vast pile of "plz do this homework for me [transcribed question with errors or link to a private PDF]" then I just won't use Stack Overflow.

Re:Tired of Stack Overflow by aflag on Tuesday September 03, 2019 @03:17AM (#20864288)
All SO tags I've ever followed the number of people answering is greater than the people asking, so that's not really an issue, I think. Although, maybe, it felt that way due to down voting.

The case you described is easy to identify and you can just leave a comment, which will be useful to both: other people answering questions and the person asking. Different from the down vote.

Re:Tired of Stack Overflow by mLuby on Monday September 02, 2019 @05:23PM (#20861871)
That's what flagging is for. Why don't people flag more?
Re:Tired of Stack Overflow by einpoklum on Monday September 02, 2019 @12:31PM (#20860122)
Here is a discussion of requiring leaving feedback when downvoting:

https://meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/357436

Re:Tired of Stack Overflow by galaxyLogic on Monday September 02, 2019 @02:39PM (#20861006)
Why don't people like it? Because SO is full of people who just love to down-vote. Your proposal would take power away from them
Re:Tired of Stack Overflow by Aeolun on Monday September 02, 2019 @09:12PM (#20862949)
Lets build a toxic community!
Re:Tired of Stack Overflow by mholt on Monday September 02, 2019 @12:15PM (#20859993)
That's ironic
Re:Tired of Stack Overflow by baud147258 on Monday September 02, 2019 @12:25PM (#20860069)
In case of post on meta, the downvotes means "I disagree with this proposal", not that the question isn't good.
Re:Tired of Stack Overflow by notatoad on Monday September 02, 2019 @01:34PM (#20860605)
Which is kind of a perfect example of how downvotes are a bad interface - what they mean is context-sensitive, and needs to be explained. If meta had an explicit "disagree" flag, instead of an obtuse "downvote" that users have to intuit the meaning of, it wouldn't have to be explained in a HN comment.
Re:Tired of Stack Overflow by Avamander on Monday September 02, 2019 @12:37PM (#20860170)
Disagreement doesn't mean they're right about the proposal though.
Re:Tired of Stack Overflow by chucksmash on Monday September 02, 2019 @01:42PM (#20860659)
Not as ironic as you'd think[1].

[1]: https://meta.stackexchange.com/a/47635