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Re:Date labels on food packaging sow consumer confusion and ... by userbinator on Sunday September 01, 2019 @08:00PM (#20855776)
In addition, 37% reported that they always or usually discard food when it is near the date stamped on the package, and 84% said they do so at least occasionally.

As someone who grew up in a not so wealthy family (but not "poor" by any standard), this behaviour is... perplexing. Are people regularly buying far more than they can consume? If that's the case, I don't think changing the date labels will do much. We almost never discarded food because of, and used the dates more as an indicator of when to consume it.

Re:Date labels on food packaging sow consumer confusion and ... by secabeen on Sunday September 01, 2019 @09:02PM (#20855992)
Some of it is that people want fresh fruits and vegetables to be available. They buy these things fully intending to cook with them, or have their kids eat them, in the next few days/week, but then life happens, other things come up, and they sit out of sight in the fridge until they go bad.
Re:Date labels on food packaging sow consumer confusion and ... by AnimalMuppet on Sunday September 01, 2019 @10:36PM (#20856380)
In particular, time and mental energy are more valuable than money for many people. It's more optimal for them to let some things go bad than to spend the time and energy to monitor tightly enough that nothing ever spoils before it's used.
Re:Date labels on food packaging sow consumer confusion and ... by tomatotomato37 on Sunday September 01, 2019 @08:10PM (#20855812)
Part of it is even the small portions of ingredients are still too much if you're only cooking the required meal occasionally as a single. It would be great if grocery stores had the ability to only buy "2 cups of milk" or a "single egg" in a way that isn't a packaging waste nightmare.
Re:Date labels on food packaging sow consumer confusion and ... by jessaustin on Sunday September 01, 2019 @08:53PM (#20855963)
...a "single egg"...

Regardless of the date on the package, eggs at least last a really long time. Go ahead and buy a dozen. If you eat those dozen this month, you'll probably be fine.

Re:Date labels on food packaging sow consumer confusion and ... by LorenPechtel on Monday September 02, 2019 @01:15AM (#20856907)
This month?

I have seen eggs be fine after 3 months in the fridge. I have seen foreign eggs last 6 weeks without refrigeration, the latter part of it in the tropics. (Don't try that with US eggs--we clean them more, weakening their defenses.)

Re:Date labels on food packaging sow consumer confusion and ... by brigandish on Sunday September 01, 2019 @09:35PM (#20856148)
The float test is helpful here, if the egg floats then it's not a witch but you should dispose of it (or better yet, check it but be ready for the smell if it's off).

Delia Smith on how to tell a good egg.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2OWXN80NZQ

Edit: Ironically (or sadly), I was a bit too quick to call for disposal of old eggs.

Re:Date labels on food packaging sow consumer confusion and ... by kazinator on Monday September 02, 2019 @01:11AM (#20856896)
If the egg floats, but has a beak and feathers, and paddling little legs, then that's a pretty darn old egg, but safe to eat.
Re:Date labels on food packaging sow consumer confusion and ... by jessaustin on Sunday September 01, 2019 @09:47PM (#20856198)
I wouldn't put a top-floater in an omelet, but if it doesn't smell I'd still bake with it. It's really a question of taste.
Re:Date labels on food packaging sow consumer confusion and ... by brigandish on Sunday September 01, 2019 @10:31PM (#20856365)
Good point.
Re:Date labels on food packaging sow consumer confusion and ... by abrowne on Sunday September 01, 2019 @09:29PM (#20856123)
The co-op groceries in Minneapolis have bulk eggs. I usually buy 4. I bring a carton, or you can take one from the stack of ones left to reuse.

Lots of bulk liquids too, but I haven't seen milk.

Re:Date labels on food packaging sow consumer confusion and ... by CameronNemo on Monday September 02, 2019 @01:29AM (#20856964)
I stopped cooking or consuming eggs and milk. I use substitutes when I bake or eat cereal. Solves the problem for me.
Re:Date labels on food packaging sow consumer confusion and ... by Double_a_92 on Monday September 02, 2019 @10:15AM (#20859214)
Wouldn't those still spoil eventually?
Re:Date labels on food packaging sow consumer confusion and ... by CameronNemo on Monday September 02, 2019 @01:05PM (#20860406)
Yes but non animal products typically last much longer.
Re:Date labels on food packaging sow consumer confusion and ... by mc32 on Sunday September 01, 2019 @09:21PM (#20856086)
So this happens to me. I think I’ll be cooking s bunch of things, but then I’m in a crunch and don’t have as much time as I thought so I whip up quicker options. That means that okra, eggplant or whatever it was I though I was going to make doesn’t and I’m making something else. When I look after the middle of the week I might have a couple of these items piled up, in addition to the things I already had planned to cook, so I’m left with more things than I can cook and by the time I might get to them, they’re past their useful date.
Re:Date labels on food packaging sow consumer confusion and ... by asveikau on Sunday September 01, 2019 @10:00PM (#20856247)
I feel like car culture and suburbs create some of this.

When I used to spend time in the suburbs I witnessed people filling large cars with groceries to last for weeks. It is hard to estimate in advance what you will actually use working that way.

I prefer to live walking distance from grocers and go every day to buy a small amount of ingredients. I often still end up with leftovers, but I am pretty conscientious about using them before they go bad and before buying more.

Re:Date labels on food packaging sow consumer confusion and ... by TeMPOraL on Sunday September 01, 2019 @10:41PM (#20856400)
You're probably spending much more money and time doing it this way. There's a middle ground between just-in-time purchasing and stocking up for a zombie apocalypse. It's not that hard to estimate how much you use in a week, and buy a week's worth of groceries at a time. Saves time, saves money, and the amount of food isn't so large you can't keep track of it anymore.
Re:Date labels on food packaging sow consumer confusion and ... by asveikau on Sunday September 01, 2019 @11:05PM (#20856494)
I'm shut out of savings-heavy options like Costco by buying this way, but I don't know about the rest of your assertion. Especially when you consider, eg., that I use my various walks to the grocer in place of where somebody else might use a gym membership. Things like this keep me physically active.
Re:Date labels on food packaging sow consumer confusion and ... by cameronbrown on Monday September 02, 2019 @07:41AM (#20858470)
Is walking really that efficient compared to a gym membership though? An hour in the gym is equivalent to a lot more walking.
Re:Date labels on food packaging sow consumer confusion and ... by freeflight on Monday September 02, 2019 @07:52AM (#20858518)
An hour in the gym is also an hour in the gym, while walking to the grocer serves not just fitness but also takes care of getting groceries.

You also save the money on gas/less wear on the car/gym membership.

Re:Date labels on food packaging sow consumer confusion and ... by asveikau on Monday September 02, 2019 @11:34AM (#20859717)
I've never had a gym membership so I can't tell you what results I would have with that. However, I did once achieve 100 lbs of weight loss over 18 months where my primary exercise was walking.
Re:Date labels on food packaging sow consumer confusion and ... by cameronbrown on Monday September 02, 2019 @01:07PM (#20860424)
Did this include dietary change?
Re:Date labels on food packaging sow consumer confusion and ... by asveikau on Monday September 02, 2019 @02:55PM (#20861105)
Reduction in portion sizes, but no major change in items consumed. Biggest staple of my diet is pasta. High carb, high fat, lots of walking keeps me at normal BMI.
Re:Date labels on food packaging sow consumer confusion and ... by userbinator on Sunday September 01, 2019 @10:14PM (#20856304)
I grew up in the suburbs, with a large car (and I still have one), so I doubt that's the only big factor; it's probably more related to people with a "this is cheap/sale, so I'll buy tons of it" attitude without thinking about the rate at which they'll use it, what they already have, and how long they can store it for.
Re:Date labels on food packaging sow consumer confusion and ... by xbmcuser on Monday September 02, 2019 @02:54AM (#20857232)
I live alone I can rarely can get perishable items in small enough quantities that I can use them before they spoil. After throwing such items a few times I have almost stopped trying to cook anything as it is cheaper to buy ready made meals plus I don't have to do the dishes after.
Re:Date labels on food packaging sow consumer confusion and ... by Double_a_92 on Monday September 02, 2019 @10:20AM (#20859239)
You just have to find a set of recipes that contains a lot of common ingredients. E.g. if you have 2 bell peppers, one day you can stir fry stipes of it with some meat, the next day you can fill the other with rice and bake it, the day after you make a rice omelette using the leftover rice that didn't fit in the bell pepper...
Re:Date labels on food packaging sow consumer confusion and ... by hrktb on Monday September 02, 2019 @07:53AM (#20858523)
> Are people regularly buying far more than they can consume?

Yes, and it's not limited to food. It's the same phenomenon as someone buying too many games on Steam or buying more books than they can read.

You are right in that labelling won't solve the fundamental issue, even if it could solve some of it: for instance making it more clear at purchase time how fast a product will degenerate could help lower impulse purchase. But then it will lower sales as well, we'd need regulation otherwise the key players won't buy in.

At some point I wonder if a model close to subscription to food services would work, in the same way Netflix doesn't make you buy thousands of movies you won't watch. If fixing our culture doesn't work.

Re:Date labels on food packaging sow consumer confusion and ... by wastedhours on Monday September 02, 2019 @03:43AM (#20857424)
> Are people regularly buying far more than they can consume?

I think often, the answer is a resounding "yes". In the UK there was a major push a few years ago to get rid of BOGOF deals on food as it often just led to more food waste.

I've not really seen much tangible change from that, but supermarkets are competing so much on "deals" that it's often better value to buy more than you need than trying to buy "enough".

Re:Date labels on food packaging sow consumer confusion and ... by jarfil on Sunday September 01, 2019 @08:58PM (#20855979)
I just opened a jar of curry sauce with an expiry date of 2018. I get it, the manufacturer doesn't want to deal with any potential liability, but otherwise this sauce is perfectly fine even when expired for over a year. Throwing food away just because the date says so, has always seemed crazy to me.
Re:Date labels on food packaging sow consumer confusion and ... by phonypc on Sunday September 01, 2019 @09:39PM (#20856166)
Did it actually say expire? Dates on jars and cans are usually about quality, not safety.
Re:Date labels on food packaging sow consumer confusion and ... by RandomTisk on Sunday September 01, 2019 @09:09PM (#20856025)
I tasted some famous-brand Greek yogurt that was about 1 or 2 weeks past the best-by date recently. The taste was flawless, but there was something very weird about the texture, like it was subtly sandy or something. I ended up throwing several cups away.

I only recently replaced my half empty "Best-by Nov 2016" Costco Saigon Cinnamon with a brand new bottle of the same. The new bottle tastes a little stronger but I sort of regret throwing the old bottle away since I don't think it will actually matter.

Re:Date labels on food packaging sow consumer confusion and ... by rhino369 on Sunday September 01, 2019 @10:03PM (#20856263)
You have to really be careful not to buy too much in bulk or too far in advance.