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Re:Vegan takeaway orders quadruple over past two years by tobr on Wednesday August 28, 2019 @09:54AM (#20819754)
Bingo. I think this is a virtuous cycle.

Even if only a small percentage of people are vegans, you only need one vegan in a group of people to pick a place that offers vegan food. Vegan food is also a safe bet for the larger group of vegetarians. That means more places want to offer some good vegan options, which in turn makes more people try vegan food, and makes it easier to be a vegan.

I’m not a vegan nor a vegetarian, but I often find myself ordering vegan dishes because they seem more healthy for myself and the environment. There are so many types of food these days where vegan is not a compromise.

Re:Vegan takeaway orders quadruple over past two years by wUabkSG6L5Bfa5 on Wednesday August 28, 2019 @10:07AM (#20819870)
Nassim Taleb makes precisely this argument about the power of stubborn minorities. Which I think is 99% great.

Though I think the medium term equilibrium is just that more establishments will need to do better than a half-ass salad for a vegan offering. Which is 100% great.

Re:Vegan takeaway orders quadruple over past two years by davinic on Wednesday August 28, 2019 @10:54AM (#20820378)
The Most Intolerant Wins: The Dictatorship of the Small Minority [1]

[1] https://medium.com/incerto/the-most-intolerant-wins-the-dict...

Re:Vegan takeaway orders quadruple over past two years by glitchc on Wednesday August 28, 2019 @10:40AM (#20820236)
Stubborn minorities also lead to the "Tyranny of the Minority" and cause widespread anger among the silent majority of moderates who do not foist their preferences onto others. It leads to reduced freedoms all across society.

https://areomagazine.com/2019/04/02/the-tyranny-of-the-minor...

It's one of the root causes leading to the rise of populists like Trump.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/25/opinion/trump-electoral-c...

In short, be careful what you wish for.

Re:Vegan takeaway orders quadruple over past two years by freeone3000 on Wednesday August 28, 2019 @11:06AM (#20820507)
Dude, it's restaurants offering better vegetarian options than the Sad Salad. It ain't that big a deal.
Re:Vegan takeaway orders quadruple over past two years by dfxm12 on Wednesday August 28, 2019 @10:15AM (#20819966)
Vegan food is also a safe bet for the larger group of vegetarians.

And people with kosher or halal diets, too.

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Re:Vegan takeaway orders quadruple over past two years by akiselev on Wednesday August 28, 2019 @10:11AM (#20819935)
Adults generally dont suffer emotional turmoil when someone else talks about their food.
Re:Vegan takeaway orders quadruple over past two years by coldtea on Wednesday August 28, 2019 @10:15AM (#20819970)
If others do it on every opportunity, with a smug holier than thou attitude and needless detail, they do...

In fact studies have shown it can drive a person insane...

Re:Vegan takeaway orders quadruple over past two years by saagarjha on Wednesday August 28, 2019 @10:58AM (#20820424)
If you frequently go to places to eat, I think it’s entirely reasonable for a vegan friend to tell you what their dietary preferences are. Other than that, it looks like your problem is with a specific person.
Re:Vegan takeaway orders quadruple over past two years by ptah on Wednesday August 28, 2019 @10:10AM (#20819914)
the toll of eating meat on environment is far greater than your concerns over your feelings. choose the lesser evil
Re:Vegan takeaway orders quadruple over past two years by povertyworld on Wednesday August 28, 2019 @10:52AM (#20820360)
Have vegans given up their cars yet? Veganism is a nice gesture, but really vegans need to step it up and ditch the cars if they care about the Earth.
Re:Vegan takeaway orders quadruple over past two years by saagarjha on Wednesday August 28, 2019 @02:06PM (#20822362)
They're doing a lot better than the people who eat meat and have cars.
Re:Vegan takeaway orders quadruple over past two years by ptah on Thursday August 29, 2019 @03:25AM (#20827473)
also doing better than the people that have ditched cars and continue to eat meat
Re:Vegan takeaway orders quadruple over past two years by coldtea on Wednesday August 28, 2019 @10:17AM (#20819985)
Eating meat is better for the environment in the long run.

If human population drops to zero due to climate change (which meat consumption contributes to), then the environment will be left alone and do great on its own! It wont even take more than 1-2 millennia for recovery, which is nothing in geological terms!

Compared to that eating vegan is just a feel-good half-measure.

Re:Vegan takeaway orders quadruple over past two years by NeedMoreTea on Wednesday August 28, 2019 @10:22AM (#20820033)
Hmm. Meat eating is better for the environment because it'll see off humanity faster? Presumably along with driving the least economical car you can find, etc?

I see the point. I don't think it's the answer most of us prefer though.

Re:Vegan takeaway orders quadruple over past two years by ptah on Wednesday August 28, 2019 @10:20AM (#20820015)
I have only seen evidence to the contrary. can you provide anything to back up what you are saying
Re:Vegan takeaway orders quadruple over past two years by okmokmz on Wednesday August 28, 2019 @01:43PM (#20822111)
Your argument is that meat is better for the environment because it will cause humans to go extinct due to global warming so the planet can recover? That's absurd
Re:Vegan takeaway orders quadruple over past two years by Legogris on Wednesday August 28, 2019 @10:16AM (#20819983)
Or just go to a place offering vegan alternatives and there will be no fuss?