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Re:Black Hat Talk About ‘Time AI’ Causes Uproar, Is Deleted ... by angarg12 on Sunday August 11, 2019 @03:47AM (#20666939)
How much does your bullshit detector hit with their promo video?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yd_2HwAmge8

Re:Black Hat Talk About ‘Time AI’ Causes Uproar, Is Deleted ... by tomxor on Sunday August 11, 2019 @07:12AM (#20667590)
It's pretty amazing, it feels far fetched even for a sc-fi... They claim to have discovered something that simultaneously renders all prime number based encryption algorithms obsolete and dangerous, opened a door to a new unified theorem in physics life and everything, has something vaguely to do with music and time and a new class of prime numbers, and for the dystopian icing on the cake: only they with their new proprietary algorithm can they protect all your important information... oh also AI of course, because AI.
Re:Black Hat Talk About ‘Time AI’ Causes Uproar, Is Deleted ... by misnome on Sunday August 11, 2019 @07:55AM (#20667727)
As far as I can tell/guess, if there is actually any product to what they claim, they are just taking standard encryption techniques and making them worse by applying buzzwords. Relating to my non-expert laymans understanding of cryptography, the process is:

- Generate primes. Practically, I understand that it's usually generating a number that's extremely likely to be prime. It sounds like they are using "not a multiple of 24" for this part (which is both obvious and obviously bad, for obvious reasons)

- Multiplex data with a sequence off of the original factorization, which is only as secure as the prime but slows down brute-force attacks. It sounds like they are using sampled waveforms of this-maybe-prime to AI-generated music (topical!) as the multiplexing sequence.

It basically sounds like cargo-cult mathematics - all the best mathematics are beautiful and use symmetry _ergo_ creating something with symmetry and beauty must be good mathematics.

Re:Black Hat Talk About ‘Time AI’ Causes Uproar, Is Deleted ... by misnome on Sunday August 11, 2019 @06:25AM (#20667443)
I mean - this is a pretty impressive video. Bullshit, but impressive.

How much does something like this cost to get made? This isn't exactly "I know a guy who has After Effects" level production.

Re:Black Hat Talk About ‘Time AI’ Causes Uproar, Is Deleted ... by tqkxzugoaupvwqr on Sunday August 11, 2019 @07:15AM (#20667606)
The video effects are beautiful. This could easily be the intro of a successful Netflix series. I watched it completely (4:40 min) because the graphics and all the mumbo-jumbo mesmerized me.
Re:Black Hat Talk About ‘Time AI’ Causes Uproar, Is Deleted ... by hobofan on Sunday August 11, 2019 @10:37AM (#20668350)
I'm not sure what you guys/gals are seeing. It's pretty much exaclty "I know a guy who knows After Effects"-level. Most of the graphics style is pretty inconsistent as the basis (probably stock footage) and only made consistent via heavy filters (desaturating everything and applying a lot of bloom).

You could probably cobble this video together for a few hundred bucks on Fiverr.

Re:Black Hat Talk About ‘Time AI’ Causes Uproar, Is Deleted ... by gus_massa on Sunday August 11, 2019 @06:14PM (#20670881)
> I'm not sure what you guys/gals are seeing.

For comparison, my best animation is a gif with a moving arrow, something like the "Click here to begin" arrow of Windows 95, but much worse. In comparison these graphics are impressive. (On the other hand, when I see the math I'm impressed in the other direction.)

Re:Black Hat Talk About ‘Time AI’ Causes Uproar, Is Deleted ... by misnome on Sunday August 11, 2019 @01:15PM (#20669170)
> only made consistent via heavy filters (desaturating everything and applying a lot of bloom).

Perhaps that's what I'm seeing, yes

Re:Black Hat Talk About ‘Time AI’ Causes Uproar, Is Deleted ... by toxik on Sunday August 11, 2019 @07:41AM (#20667684)
one key from the past and one key from the _future_
Re:Black Hat Talk About ‘Time AI’ Causes Uproar, Is Deleted ... by tigershark on Sunday August 11, 2019 @09:19AM (#20668045)
At that point it broke my BS detector, I had to order a new one.
Re:Black Hat Talk About ‘Time AI’ Causes Uproar, Is Deleted ... by drexlspivey on Sunday August 11, 2019 @09:37AM (#20668119)
from __future__ import key
Re:Black Hat Talk About ‘Time AI’ Causes Uproar, Is Deleted ... by rini17 on Sunday August 11, 2019 @08:50AM (#20667943)
It was made by The AI itself.
Re:Black Hat Talk About ‘Time AI’ Causes Uproar, Is Deleted ... by chvid on Sunday August 11, 2019 @05:19AM (#20667244)
That video is amazing.

The conference is really playing into Time AIs game by censoring it. Underlying the story that this new technology is just too big and too groundbreaking for the industry to accept :-D

Re:Black Hat Talk About ‘Time AI’ Causes Uproar, Is Deleted ... by sschueller on Sunday August 11, 2019 @06:26AM (#20667444)
It's like some Hollywood movie intro, really well made.
Re:Black Hat Talk About ‘Time AI’ Causes Uproar, Is Deleted ... by delfinom on Sunday August 11, 2019 @12:03PM (#20668715)
BlackHat isn't really the "industry to accept it". It's the industry that obliterates it as it's purpose.
Re:Black Hat Talk About ‘Time AI’ Causes Uproar, Is Deleted ... by BubRoss on Sunday August 11, 2019 @08:05AM (#20667755)
A conference not accepting a talk is not censorship.
Re:Black Hat Talk About ‘Time AI’ Causes Uproar, Is Deleted ... by misnome on Sunday August 11, 2019 @08:08AM (#20667766)
The conference accepted the talk. They gave the talk. The conference is now removing their videos after-the-fact. It's not hard to see how one could spin that as censorship.
Re:Black Hat Talk About ‘Time AI’ Causes Uproar, Is Deleted ... by moloch on Sunday August 11, 2019 @08:50AM (#20667942)
The conference did _not_ accept the talk, they paid the conference so that they could give the talk.
Re:Black Hat Talk About ‘Time AI’ Causes Uproar, Is Deleted ... by StavrosK on Sunday August 11, 2019 @09:57AM (#20668191)
Which they accepted, no?
Re:Black Hat Talk About ‘Time AI’ Causes Uproar, Is Deleted ... by jjeaff on Sunday August 11, 2019 @06:53PM (#20671069)
They don't vet the paid presentations.
Re:Black Hat Talk About ‘Time AI’ Causes Uproar, Is Deleted ... by StavrosK on Sunday August 11, 2019 @06:57PM (#20671089)
Really? Wow.
Re:Black Hat Talk About ‘Time AI’ Causes Uproar, Is Deleted ... by hannasanarion on Sunday August 11, 2019 @11:21AM (#20668531)
It is censorship. Not all censorship is bad. Black Hat has a duty to censor these asshats.
Re:Black Hat Talk About ‘Time AI’ Causes Uproar, Is Deleted ... by _0ffh on Sunday August 11, 2019 @10:27AM (#20668302)
Broke the needle.

I wonder who they're targeting with this. Given the nature of the product and the high production value bullshit video, I guess they must be after either rich individuals or incompetent upper management.