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Re:HarmonyOS is Huawei’s Android alternative for smartphones... by pavs on Friday August 09, 2019 @06:36AM (#20653017)
I have often seen there are heavy implicit bias from USA based journalists/blogs when reporting non-us based companies. More so when reporting Chinese companies. China is the second-largest economy in the world. But there is always a "but" or an implicit Asterix when reporting anything positive about Chinese companies.

Second Largest smartphone manufacturer. Largest supplier of network equipment. 6-7 largest tech company in the world. 170k employees in 170 countries. 100+ billion yearly revenue. They are not even allowed to do business in USA. Arguably the most profitable market in the world.

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Re:HarmonyOS is Huawei’s Android alternative for smartphones... by gtirloni on Friday August 09, 2019 @06:56AM (#20653111)
Large doesn't mean ethical. There's that giant firewall, the backdoors, etc.
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Re:HarmonyOS is Huawei’s Android alternative for smartphones... by toxik on Friday August 09, 2019 @07:24AM (#20653264)
Huawei has been caught doing corporate espionage many times, and treating its employees poorly. It’s always such an uphill battle to get people to realize that competition with China is different from democratic countries. It’s easier to believe that it’s just racism and bigotry than it is to accept that Chinese companies compete on uneven footing.
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Re:HarmonyOS is Huawei’s Android alternative for smartphones... by LunaSea on Friday August 09, 2019 @08:05AM (#20653521)
I absolutely agree but if you think that the US companies are fighting fairly then you are sorely mistaken.

The US government and judicial system routinely interfere to give advantages and sometimes outright eliminate competitors to American companies.

A very good example is the way the acquisition of Alstom by GE was delivered.

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Re:HarmonyOS is Huawei’s Android alternative for smartphones... by jeffusan1234 on Friday August 09, 2019 @09:39AM (#20654171)
Another example is how the US government and Microsoft effectively killed off japanese competition from their TRON operating system (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRON_project).
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Re:HarmonyOS is Huawei’s Android alternative for smartphones... by pavs on Friday August 09, 2019 @07:40AM (#20653361)
>Huawei has been caught doing corporate espionage many times, and treating its employees poorly

Lets remove Huawei with Uber.

Uber accused of espionage, bribery and hacking by former employee:

https://techcrunch.com/2017/12/15/uber-accused-of-espionage-...

"I am an Uber employee and I support the drivers’ strikes.":

https://boingboing.net/2019/03/27/i-am-an-uber-employee-and-...

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Re:HarmonyOS is Huawei’s Android alternative for smartphones... by bad_user on Friday August 09, 2019 @07:46AM (#20653397)
Have you seen Uber being cut any slack here in Hacker News? Or in the press at large for that matter.

I haven't.

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Re:HarmonyOS is Huawei’s Android alternative for smartphones... by krageon on Friday August 09, 2019 @07:01AM (#20653137)
Let's not play this particular blame-game. The ethics (or lack thereof) of the administration of China is not where this bias comes from.
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Re:HarmonyOS is Huawei’s Android alternative for smartphones... by justicezyx on Friday August 09, 2019 @01:11PM (#20656306)
> The ethics (or lack thereof) of the administration of China is not where this bias comes from.

How so?

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Re:HarmonyOS is Huawei’s Android alternative for smartphones... by pavs on Friday August 09, 2019 @07:01AM (#20653139)
Seriously?

https://mashable.com/2014/06/05/edward-snowden-revelations/

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Re:HarmonyOS is Huawei’s Android alternative for smartphones... by gtirloni on Friday August 09, 2019 @08:06AM (#20653526)
One doesn't justify the other. Otherwise we're lowering the bar instead raising it.
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Re:HarmonyOS is Huawei’s Android alternative for smartphones... by pavs on Friday August 09, 2019 @08:27AM (#20653656)
Yet, it's convenient to point it out every time a Chinese company is mentioned in any context. But not so much when a company from the US does it. Let me ask you a question, name me a company that is the in the top 100 largest company in the world - that you would consider ethical?
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Re:HarmonyOS is Huawei’s Android alternative for smartphones... by concert-gilled on Friday August 09, 2019 @08:47AM (#20653776)
The United States doesn't harvest the organs of prisoners.
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Re:HarmonyOS is Huawei’s Android alternative for smartphones... by pavs on Friday August 09, 2019 @08:50AM (#20653796)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unethical_human_experimentatio...

https://www.aclu.org/blog/national-security/torture/secret-c...

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Re:HarmonyOS is Huawei’s Android alternative for smartphones... by gtirloni on Friday August 09, 2019 @09:03AM (#20653884)
This is a waste of time. Both "sides" have done terrible things and, again, one doesn't justify the other. We shouldn't cut these companies any Slack... be it Huawei, Uber, whatever.
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Re:HarmonyOS is Huawei’s Android alternative for smartphones... by brynjolf on Friday August 09, 2019 @07:12AM (#20653195)
Just like the NSA and Cisco do...
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Re:HarmonyOS is Huawei’s Android alternative for smartphones... by close04 on Friday August 09, 2019 @07:23AM (#20653257)
Those aren't back doors. They're front doors for democracy and freedom. [/s]

We can't expect media to be entirely neutral. Both sides will tend to focus almost exclusively on their own achievements and the other's failures and mistakes in order to maintain the balance. It may be a good idea to read both sides and then "average out".

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Re:HarmonyOS is Huawei’s Android alternative for smartphones... by ETHisso2017 on Friday August 09, 2019 @12:19PM (#20655735)
Cisco built the Great Firewall. Huawei just maintains it.
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