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Re:8chan goes dark after hardware provider discontinues service by moab on Monday August 05, 2019 @03:15PM (#20617597)
I would not lump 4chan into this discussion. I'll concede that some boards on the site are more polemical than others and promote alt-right ideologies without a doubt, but there are many other interesting boards and people on 4chan that are not captured by the broad strokes you're outlining. I know people that browse /fit/, /lit/, /mu/ and /out/ just to name some boards that are perfectly reasonable individuals that don't lionize shooters or hold other alienated views.
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Re:8chan goes dark after hardware provider discontinues service by andrepd on Monday August 05, 2019 @03:28PM (#20617798)
That's a concern leveled elsewhere in this thread: that you go to 4chan to discuss music or retro video games, and are one click away from an absolute hive of poisonous extremists.
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Re:8chan goes dark after hardware provider discontinues service by moab on Monday August 05, 2019 @03:49PM (#20618091)
The "bad" boards frequently leak, and you do see highly political or racist posts from time-to-time on the regular boards. A sign that the community is functioning properly is regulars on /out/, /lit/, etc. calling out (read mocking) ethno-nationalist threads, or race-baiting for what they are.
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Re:8chan goes dark after hardware provider discontinues service by zanny on Monday August 05, 2019 @07:08PM (#20620207)
> unfortunately no one has the answer.

The answer is structuring society, socialization, and culture in a way that doesn't disenfranchise people or leave them feeling helpless enough to turn to extremism, hate, and violence.

But that requires empathy and effort, things often in short supply.

People only go down the dark paths that lead to 8chan et al when the avenues to belonging they were presented with by their parents and by default failed them.

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Re:8chan goes dark after hardware provider discontinues service by meruru on Monday August 05, 2019 @03:39PM (#20617954)
On the other hand, the extremists are one click away from the people who will call them out on their bs. I'm not sure if that's worse or better than deplatforming them only to have they retreat to even more extremist echo-chambers.
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Re:8chan goes dark after hardware provider discontinues service by rpmisms on Tuesday August 06, 2019 @09:28AM (#20624935)
It's good. Know thine enemy, and keep them close.
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Re:8chan goes dark after hardware provider discontinues service by Notorious_BLT on Monday August 05, 2019 @03:48PM (#20618073)
Just to add on my own experiences, Since starting to collect toys and also make my own, I've been entirely unable to find a better community for both of these than /toy/. Every other community is brimming with an endless barrage of superhero stuff and zero interest in niche/art toy lines. /pol/-esque posting is always mocked, reported, and subsequently purged by janitors there.
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Re:8chan goes dark after hardware provider discontinues service by meruru on Monday August 05, 2019 @03:27PM (#20617776)
I'm most familiar with /a/ and can tell you there's a broad distaste for /pol/ on /a/.
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Re:8chan goes dark after hardware provider discontinues service by ibejoeb on Tuesday August 06, 2019 @01:16AM (#20622354)
>promote alt-right ideologies

Why are invoking alt-right? One of the two shooters was radically left, and he posted his threats on Twitter.

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Re:8chan goes dark after hardware provider discontinues service by moab on Tuesday August 06, 2019 @01:47AM (#20622494)
Because that's the radicalized ideology that pops up most often on 4chan. If you know of a board with a contingent of alt-left/identity-politics I would be interested to know. As you said yourself, the case of the second shooter seems to be related to Twitter, not the chans.
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Re:8chan goes dark after hardware provider discontinues service by _carl_jung on Tuesday August 06, 2019 @04:46AM (#20623420)
> If you know of a board with a contingent of alt-left/identity-politics

This bubble is so large it no longer appears to be a bubble.

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Re:8chan goes dark after hardware provider discontinues service by krainboltgreene on Tuesday August 06, 2019 @06:25AM (#20623892)
He had "leftist" in his bio so that makes him a "radical left".

Is that what passes as reasoned thinking these days?

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Re:8chan goes dark after hardware provider discontinues service by ibejoeb on Wednesday August 07, 2019 @01:06AM (#20632112)
No. Come on, are we gonna do it like this? Actually take a look at this guy.

I call him radical because he actually was. He posted overt, politically charged threats on Twitter, for example: "I want socialism, and i’ll not wait for the idiots to finally come round to understanding."

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Re:8chan goes dark after hardware provider discontinues service by syrrim on Tuesday August 06, 2019 @11:49AM (#20626249)
There are good boards on 8ch too. Probably more, considering anyone can make a board.
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Re:8chan goes dark after hardware provider discontinues service by jachee on Monday August 05, 2019 @10:05PM (#20621380)
Can we please stop using the "alt-right" euphemism for racist, backwards, literal Nazis?

Edit: seems we have some Nazi-sympathizer downvoters on HN.

Go figure.

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Re:8chan goes dark after hardware provider discontinues service by rpmisms on Tuesday August 06, 2019 @09:31AM (#20624947)
Literal Nazis are German White Nationalist Socialists. That's not what the alt-right is. The alt-right is a blanket term used to describe anyone right of Bill Clinton who is currently not a media darling.

Fascists or Ethno-Centrists are both better terms, and cover the ideologies that most people attribute to the alt right.

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