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Re:Americans' plastic recycling is dumped in landfills by neom on Monday July 29, 2019 @12:10AM (#20551449)
David Attenborough says air travel should be more expensive to fight climate change https://7news.com.au/news/environment/david-attenborough-say...
Re:Americans' plastic recycling is dumped in landfills by abraae on Monday July 29, 2019 @12:51AM (#20551602)
I find it amazing that if an alien civilization descended on us and taxed all fossil fuel usage by 100%, and took all that money out of planet Earth forever, both we and the aliens would be better off.
Re:Americans' plastic recycling is dumped in landfills by vinay427 on Monday July 29, 2019 @03:24AM (#20552209)
Why just fossil fuels? Other massive contributers like the meat industry should be taxed as well.
Re:Americans' plastic recycling is dumped in landfills by jessaustin on Monday July 29, 2019 @08:10AM (#20553665)
Are you referring to cow farts? ISTM that cow farts come from cow food, which in turn comes from plants that pull carbon out of the atmosphere. Elsewhere ITT this cycle is used to justify using paper products. This seems very different than pulling fossil fuel out of the ground and burning it?
Re:Americans' plastic recycling is dumped in landfills by aitchnyu on Monday July 29, 2019 @04:00AM (#20552418)
Why be especially drastic on air travel when its 2% of carbon emissions, per Huffpost?
Re:Americans' plastic recycling is dumped in landfills by jdietrich on Monday July 29, 2019 @06:10AM (#20553031)
Air travel is particularly carbon intensive on a per-journey basis and cannot be decarbonized using current technology. We can replace your car with an EV, we can run your air conditioner on renewable electricity, we can swap your gas furnace for a ground-source heat pump, but passenger aviation is going to involve burning tonnes of kerosene for the foreseeable future.
Re:Americans' plastic recycling is dumped in landfills by wormseed on Monday July 29, 2019 @06:46AM (#20553172)
Direct Air Capture can pull carbon out of the atmosphere for ~$200 per tonne. Flying generates about 0.1 tonne per passenger-hour. We can make flying carbon neutral and it'd only be ~20% more expensive.
Re:Americans' plastic recycling is dumped in landfills by NikkiA on Monday July 29, 2019 @07:53AM (#20553523)
So about 100 tonnes per flight.
Re:Americans' plastic recycling is dumped in landfills by vkou on Monday July 29, 2019 @05:24AM (#20552803)
If you account for the impact of the emissions, rather than their weight, air travel is ~6-10% (Because emissions at 30,000 feet have a larger greenhouse effect.)
Re:Americans' plastic recycling is dumped in landfills by pfdietz on Monday July 29, 2019 @08:25AM (#20553795)
Since CO2 is mixed in the atmosphere on a timescale short compared to how long it's going to linger there, your argument does not work.
Re:Americans' plastic recycling is dumped in landfills by primroot on Monday July 29, 2019 @09:45AM (#20554505)
Society tends to underestimate the power of inefficiencies and shortcomings to keep us in the right track by making it difficult to attain our immediate aspirations. The exception is in the case of the underclasses. In this case most people just find it obvious that if they have too much too easily then the entrepreneurial spirit would collapse and along with it society.
Re:Americans' plastic recycling is dumped in landfills by bryanrasmussen on Monday July 29, 2019 @01:43AM (#20551786)
An alien civilization would be better off if they started using our money?
Re:Americans' plastic recycling is dumped in landfills by abraae on Monday July 29, 2019 @02:30AM (#20551967)
Let's assume they took it in the form of gold, ergs, Apple store credit etc.
Re:Americans' plastic recycling is dumped in landfills by Doubl on Monday July 29, 2019 @03:14AM (#20552160)
Do they take plastic?
Re:Americans' plastic recycling is dumped in landfills by anonymou2 on Monday July 29, 2019 @06:30AM (#20553113)
no, they will become corrupt.
Re:Americans' plastic recycling is dumped in landfills by distances on Monday July 29, 2019 @04:08AM (#20552466)
I wonder why the comment is called "incendiary" in the article. Flight prices are ridiculously cheap, especially in Europe. As far as I know the jet fuel isn't even taxed, while it would make sense to tax it harder than fuel for other uses.

I do take advantage of these almost-free flights, but often wish they'd be more expensive -- to make rail travel more competitive if nothing else.

Re:Americans' plastic recycling is dumped in landfills by BigJono on Monday July 29, 2019 @03:04AM (#20552127)
This might be off topic but why does the Australian media constantly source their "expert" quotes from the Institute of Public Affairs? The entire organisation is complete bullshit. Surely they can find people with actual credibility to put up an opposing argument once in a while.