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Re:A Black Hole Engulfing the World's Bond Markets by viburnum on Sunday July 28, 2019 @12:32PM (#20548358)
Kind of weird that people expected to get paid simply for having money in the first place.
Re:A Black Hole Engulfing the World's Bond Markets by simplicio on Sunday July 28, 2019 @12:39PM (#20548408)
Makes more sense if you think about it as being paid to forgo consumption. Your being paid not for having money, but for not using it right away and letting someone else use it instead.

Of course, if no one else has anything better to do with it, the value of this "service" drops to zero, as seems to be happening now.

Re:A Black Hole Engulfing the World's Bond Markets by gchokov on Sunday July 28, 2019 @12:38PM (#20548400)
Not weird at all. You lend your money to the bank, the bank operates with them and you get paid for that. Can you give me your money so that I invest with them and I will give you less what you gave me in 10 years? Thanks!
Re:A Black Hole Engulfing the World's Bond Markets by ulucs on Sunday July 28, 2019 @12:39PM (#20548404)
Philosophically yes, but realistically not. If I can borrow 10$ to earn an extra dollar, why would I object to paying a 0.5$ interest?
Re:A Black Hole Engulfing the World's Bond Markets by whatshisface on Sunday July 28, 2019 @12:35PM (#20548382)
When you loan money you risk it. Unless you are under the FDIC insurance limit, the bank is allowed to lose your money by lending it out wrong. FDIC insurance is actually a progressive redistribution program because people with more money pay into the system without receiving proportional protection.
Re:A Black Hole Engulfing the World's Bond Markets by dbancajas on Sunday July 28, 2019 @01:34PM (#20548757)
is FDIC per person or per account? Can I claim 4 FDIC insurance claims for 1M total net worth for example?
Re:A Black Hole Engulfing the World's Bond Markets by akiselev on Sunday July 28, 2019 @05:34PM (#20549950)
Per [1]:

"The standard deposit insurance coverage limit is $250,000 per depositor, per FDIC-insured bank, per ownership category. Deposits held in different ownership categories are separately insured, up to at least $250,000, even if held at the same bank."

[1] https://www.fdic.gov/deposit/deposits/faq.html

Re:A Black Hole Engulfing the World's Bond Markets by dymk on Sunday July 28, 2019 @12:48PM (#20548465)
You're getting paid by the bank because you're effectively loaning the bank money
Re:A Black Hole Engulfing the World's Bond Markets by carapace on Sunday July 28, 2019 @06:38PM (#20550212)
The word is "usury".

> Originally, usury meant the charging of interest of any kind and, in some Christian societies and even today in many Islamic societies, charging any interest at all was considered usury. Some of the earliest known condemnations of usury come from the Vedic texts of India. Similar condemnations are found in religious texts from Buddhism, Judaism, Christianity, and Islam

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usury

Re:A Black Hole Engulfing the World's Bond Markets by jstewartmobile on Sunday July 28, 2019 @01:21PM (#20548672)
Our system prints money for complex and highly debatable reasons, so what a bank pays in interest to its depositors is rarely ever enough to offset all the inflation they create.

It's not "getting paid" so much as loss mitigation.

The modern racket of fiat money and lending at interest (which all of the Abrahamic faiths prohibit or restrict) is an assault on the plebes.

People like the game too much to care.

Re:A Black Hole Engulfing the World's Bond Markets by lyttlerock on Sunday July 28, 2019 @12:39PM (#20548407)
I think philosophically this has merit (see Riba[0]). Economically, I feel like it makes perfect sense to get paid for providing a service (i.e. loaning money).

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riba

Re:A Black Hole Engulfing the World's Bond Markets by andrenth on Sunday July 28, 2019 @01:16PM (#20548632)
Well not simply for having money, but for not spending it immediately. By saving you sacrifice immediate benefits for future ones, and you get money for it because you lend your money to people who are willing to pay to spend it now.

This is the essence of all investing, including entrepreneurship.

Re:A Black Hole Engulfing the World's Bond Markets by mruts on Sunday July 28, 2019 @01:48PM (#20548823)
Why is that weird? Having money allows you to loan the money to people that don't have it, and they're gonna pay you for the privileged. Or, in another words, money you get today is worth more than money you get tomorrow. Both of these are very intuitive concepts.
Re:A Black Hole Engulfing the World's Bond Markets by Youcandothis on Sunday July 28, 2019 @01:35PM (#20548764)
I don't think they are paid for having money. When saving money in a bank, you don't have the money. The bank has it, and you are being paid for letting them have your money.
Re:A Black Hole Engulfing the World's Bond Markets by walshemj on Sunday July 28, 2019 @04:31PM (#20549697)
No your being paid for the use of your money - the banks lend this out, this is how fractional reserve banking works.
Re:A Black Hole Engulfing the World's Bond Markets by ambicapter on Sunday July 28, 2019 @12:38PM (#20548402)
Is it weirder that this was essentially the case for decades upon decades?
Re:A Black Hole Engulfing the World's Bond Markets by atemerev on Sunday July 28, 2019 @12:51PM (#20548477)
Not “having”, but lending it for some time to other people.
Re:A Black Hole Engulfing the World's Bond Markets by rhizome on Sunday July 28, 2019 @01:00PM (#20548540)
So a passbook savings account.