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Re:How to assess the quality of garments (2014) by losvedir on Tuesday July 23, 2019 @06:58AM (#20505784)
I don't really believe this anymore. Basically because of this theory my last pair of boots want the nicest I could find, high quality materials, hand made construction, almost $500, thinking it was an investment and I'd never have to go shoe shopping again. Well, I've had to repair them once already, and frankly with how cheap boots are at Walmart I don't think anymore I'll ever break even. Nice boots, though, and a pleasure to wear.
Re:How to assess the quality of garments (2014) by derefr on Tuesday July 23, 2019 @03:16PM (#20509372)
I believe the common wisdom isn't that high-quality things necessarily are any slower to wear out; but rather that when they do wear out, they do so in non-critical ways, with specially-designated easily-replaceable sacrificial parts wearing out to protect the whole.

E.g. with shoes with leather soles, you can just pry them off and tack on a new sole; with an expensive couch with good framing, you can just reupholster the thing; etc.

Likewise, clothes considered higher-quality are usually made of materials that can "absorb" re-stitching; while clothes made of "expensive" but not "high-quality" materials (e.g. modern sports fabrics) will tear and then there's nothing you can really do; any patch sewn onto them would fall back off the first time they're put through the wash.

Re:How to assess the quality of garments (2014) by Retric on Tuesday July 23, 2019 @09:30AM (#20506552)
Extremes are bad at both ends. Really cheap shoes don’t last 2 months. Some cheap clothes don’t last the first wash.

However, finding the sweet spot is rarely 100x the cheap version it’s more like 2-10x. The risk is not just normal use some times things get lost etc.

Re:How to assess the quality of garments (2014) by distances on Tuesday July 23, 2019 @07:06AM (#20505810)
I think there's a middle ground. I bought 110€ winter shoes 11-12 years ago and they've worked fine (with one resoling) this far -- now I've worn through the inner material and will probably have to find a new pair.

Same for my 100€ winter jacket, sits and looks great still after 10 years. It's def not lovingly handcrafted but a level up from fast fashion anyway.

Re:How to assess the quality of garments (2014) by vanderZwan on Tuesday July 23, 2019 @08:07AM (#20506057)
So in short: Vimes' "Boots" Theory of Economic Injustice is incomplete without taking the Pareto Principle into consideration as well
Re:How to assess the quality of garments (2014) by natmaka on Tuesday July 23, 2019 @08:42AM (#20506240)
Many (most?) types of expensive things are thought to be "more durable" because their users take much more care of them (because they are expensive!) than of their cheap equivalent.
Re:How to assess the quality of garments (2014) by H1Supreme on Tuesday July 23, 2019 @08:16AM (#20506102)
Do you wear them daily? Even boots from Alden or Viberg should be rotated with at least one other pair.
Re:How to assess the quality of garments (2014) by ryanlol on Tuesday July 23, 2019 @09:43AM (#20506643)
Yeah, any leather shoes will wear out much faster if you don't let them sit and dry out after wearing.

Shoe trees can vastly prolong the lifespan of a pair of shoes.

Re:How to assess the quality of garments (2014) by jandrese on Tuesday July 23, 2019 @01:36PM (#20508567)
Are you stomping through mud puddles daily with your shoes?

Regular foot sweat should be long since evaporated away with just an overnight stay in the shoe closet unless perhaps you live in an un-airconditioned house in a swamp.

I wear the same pair of leather shoes every day and in the end it's the soles that wear out, not the leather. They aren't even fancy shoes, just run of the mill Dockers.

Re:How to assess the quality of garments (2014) by Domenic_S on Tuesday July 23, 2019 @02:03PM (#20508792)
That's a great failure mode as you can simply get them re-soled.
Re:How to assess the quality of garments (2014) by jandrese on Tuesday July 23, 2019 @02:09PM (#20508845)
Theoretically, but the couple of times I've checked it would cost pretty much the same or more to re-sole my shoes as it would be to buy a brand new pair. It's pretty hard to find anybody who even does that anymore, and their clients are people with extremely expensive imported dress shoes.
Re:How to assess the quality of garments (2014) by cbzoiav on Monday July 29, 2019 @02:36AM (#20551993)
Not sure where you are but in the UK Timpsons are absolutely everywhere (although the quality and pricing of repairs seems pretty hit and miss - some stores are excellent, others less so).

And there are still plenty of independent shops kicking about. Most places offering lock smith services also offer shoe repair.

Re:How to assess the quality of garments (2014) by kortex on Tuesday July 23, 2019 @09:50AM (#20506695)
Huh. So you are saying if I have 2 pairs of identical shoes, A and B, if I wear A for T months, then B for T months, by alternating every day I should get >2T months out?
Re:How to assess the quality of garments (2014) by ghostbrainalpha on Tuesday July 23, 2019 @01:56PM (#20508737)
You absolutely get > 2T out. Potentially up to 4T.

This is because much of the wear on your shoes does not come from steps and hitting the ground. It comes from sweat and moisture inside the shoe, and the inside of your shoe takes a REALLY long time to dry out fully.

If you wanted to extend of life of a shoe without rotating pairs you can also buy a shoe drying rack. This is what a lot of people in construction do with extensive work boots.

Re:How to assess the quality of garments (2014) by thrav on Tuesday July 23, 2019 @10:47AM (#20507122)
I have so many pairs of shoes now that I only wear some of them a few times a year. I only ever buy ones that I’ll have forever on deep discount (picked up a couple pair of Allen Edmonds for $100 each recently).

For the price of 2 Allen Edmonds bought retail, I could have 7 pairs of their timeless shoes, rotate them regularly, and never buy shoes again.

In reality, I have 4. 2 brown and 2 black, and that’s more than enough. My Dad has the same, and is still wearing his from the 80s on a daily basis.

Re:How to assess the quality of garments (2014) by wyclif on Wednesday July 24, 2019 @05:14AM (#20513451)
The top of the line Allen Edmonds dress shoes (forget the model right now) are really high quality uppers. You can re-sole them many times.
Re:How to assess the quality of garments (2014) by the_seraphim on Tuesday July 23, 2019 @12:26PM (#20507959)
Yes, it allows the materials to dry out and prevents microscopic damage from hydrolysis or mould et al.
Re:How to assess the quality of garments (2014) by CydeWeys on Tuesday July 23, 2019 @10:44AM (#20507101)
This is an old wive's tale.
Re:How to assess the quality of garments (2014) by parliament32 on Wednesday July 24, 2019 @04:22PM (#20519255)
Why not find a company with a lifetime warranty? My dailies are https://www.goruck.com/macv-1/ and they offer to lifetime-fix-or-replace anything you manage to break or wear out. This brand may be a bit too "military" for you but I'm sure there are other manufacturers out there that actually stand behind their products, no?