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Re:Twitter was down by idlewords on Thursday July 11, 2019 @03:28PM (#20414786)
Write a script to fire random events and you will notice they sometimes cluster in ways that look like a pattern.
Re:Twitter was down by rossdavidh on Thursday July 11, 2019 @03:33PM (#20414862)
You know, it would be cool if you found stats on the downtime metrics of these various high-profile recent outages, and calculated the odds of having such a cluster. Statistics is hard, though, and avoiding a "Texas Bulls-eye" would be hard.
Re:Twitter was down by wtallis on Thursday July 11, 2019 @03:45PM (#20415053)
"Celebrities die 2.7183 at a time": http://ssp.impulsetrain.com/celebrities.html
Re:Twitter was down by gcbw2 on Thursday July 11, 2019 @06:34PM (#20416518)
So the only take away is that now the population at large notices tech companies outages as much as they notice celebrity deaths?
Re:Twitter was down by uxp on Thursday July 11, 2019 @08:05PM (#20417031)
"population at large"

This thread is linked to a status page run by Twitter, on a programming and technology news site. I'm not really seeing how most people that exist in the western/1st world are noticing this. Is there a CNN article, or FoxNews segment on how tech companies are having outages?

Re:Twitter was down by gcbw2 on Friday July 12, 2019 @12:26PM (#20421896)
Yes, fox news even suggest it was part of a large coordinated censorship effort on the POTUS :D

https://www.foxnews.com/tech/twitter-suffers-widespread-outa...

quote from that url: "The outage came as President Trump was hosting a social media summit with right-wing personalities and tech industry critics who've accused Twitter and other websites of having an anti-conservative bias."

Re:Twitter was down by appleiigs on Thursday July 11, 2019 @04:17PM (#20415373)
Re:Twitter was down by rossdavidh on Thursday July 11, 2019 @06:39PM (#20416539)
Sure does look like we are way out there at the tail end of the probability distribution, by those numbers.
Re:Twitter was down by mruts on Thursday July 11, 2019 @08:22PM (#20417093)
I mean, we can assume the downtime variance follows a normal distribution. It should pretty easy to calculate P<.05 with just a little bit of data.
Re:Twitter was down by rossdavidh on Friday July 12, 2019 @12:37PM (#20422006)
What you say could be true, but I don't know that we can assume it. If downtime requires several things to happen (cascading errors), but those things interact somehow (problem with one makes another more likely), I could imagine it might not be normally distributed. Disclaimer: I Am Not A Statistician.
Re:Twitter was down by rossdavidh on Thursday July 11, 2019 @03:29PM (#20414810)
Oh, sure. But Apple, Google, Cloudflare, Stripe, Slack, Microsoft, we're getting to more than five even...
Re:Twitter was down by root_axis on Thursday July 11, 2019 @07:16PM (#20416766)
The logic of the GP still applies though. Sites have outages every day so it is inevitable that some large sites will fail around the same time. Also, we know that Cloudflare and Twitter outages were attributed to configuration changes, probably others have benign explanations as well.
Re:Twitter was down by rossdavidh on Thursday July 11, 2019 @08:00PM (#20416999)
Sure, but "configuration changes" does not exclude several of these options. For example, is it harder to predict/deal with the consequences of configuration changes than it used to be?
Re:Twitter was down by root_axis on Thursday July 11, 2019 @10:32PM (#20417629)
Well, the options above cover pretty much every possibility, including the one I'm suggesting.
Re:Twitter was down by mattwad on Thursday July 11, 2019 @03:55PM (#20415163)
Reddit went down this morning too
Re:Twitter was down by gpm on Thursday July 11, 2019 @03:59PM (#20415201)
Reddit goes down a lot though in my experience.
Re:Twitter was down by kabwj on Thursday July 11, 2019 @04:24PM (#20415440)
Reddit being up for 24 hours or generating pages in less than 3 seconds would be noteworthy.
Re:Twitter was down by gnulinux on Thursday July 11, 2019 @04:35PM (#20415551)
Reddit goes down pretty frequently. It's been that way for years.
Re:Twitter was down by opencl on Thursday July 11, 2019 @05:06PM (#20415841)
And now Discord is down!
Re:Twitter was down by gsich on Thursday July 11, 2019 @08:37PM (#20417159)
no loss
Re:Twitter was down by shobith on Thursday July 11, 2019 @05:19PM (#20415947)
This. I have first hand experience in this phenomenon multiple times. Complexity helps this effect too.