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Re:The Durian King by vdas on Sunday July 07, 2019 @03:08AM (#20373923)
I live in Malaysia. We are right in the middle of durian season (May to August).

Musang King costs Ringgit Malaysia(RM)48 per kg. That is around USD12/kg or (USD5.45/pound). So a single Musang King durian will cost around RM60 per fruit (USD14.50/fruit). I usually buy slightly lesser quality durian at RM38/kg. The seller will help to choose a fruit that is ripe and creamy but not overripe. You can take home the partially opened fruit or just transfer it to a styrofoam container that you put in the fridge when you get home.

Musang King has smaller seeds and is creamier than what I usually buy. But the less expensive fruit is good enough for me since I buy durian pretty often. If you had a durian orchard why would you grow fruit that does not taste good? If I were a durian farmer I certainly would not. The difference in quality between Musang King and the others is not that noticeable.

My friends from India who visit me just hate the smell because it (sorry to be so graphic!) smells like fruity poo and refuse to taste it or taste it with a cringing expression. I'm sure that other people have the same reaction. But if you do visit Malaysia (or another durian country such as Singapore or Thailand -- both remarkable countries for food as well), you should partake. It is the closest you will come to eating palkova from a tree.

Re:The Durian King by AlchemistCamp on Sunday July 07, 2019 @09:22AM (#20374952)
This is the stuff of nightmares. My old roommate was a durian fan and thanks to him, our refrigerator often smelled like it had a rotting carcass in it.

There's something powerful about the fruit. It's an acquired taste and an extreme one, but people who love it really love it.

Re:The Durian King by jessaustin on Sunday July 07, 2019 @11:18AM (#20375500)
I only had it once. It was awful, but I could tell that if I ate it again I would develop a taste for it. That's why I haven't had it since.
Re:The Durian King by youeseh on Sunday July 07, 2019 @12:19PM (#20375848)
I was afraid of Durian because of everything I'd heard about its smell. Then, one day I visited Vietnam and a friend brought Durian for all of us to try. The smell wasn't bad at all and it tasted pretty good!
Re:The Durian King by rorykoehler on Sunday July 07, 2019 @03:43AM (#20374012)
I'm Irish and I really like Durian. The flavour and character can really change amongst different varieties too.
Re:The Durian King by darklajid on Sunday July 07, 2019 @02:19PM (#20376696)
Expat in SG here. Durian is really nice, the smell doesn't bother me. I do think it's very heavy and filling though, so I rarely eat a lot.
Re:The Durian King by philliphaydon on Sunday July 07, 2019 @01:21PM (#20376260)
I live in Singapore. Tried it 3 times. Durian I’ve cream, durian pancake, and just the raw fruit. I just don’t like it at all :/ but damn it’s popular! Amazing seeing people queue for it.
Re:The Durian King by gshakir on Sunday July 07, 2019 @09:23AM (#20374958)
I might visit KL soon, which place would you recommend to try out eating Durian? And which place to get it to bring it back home? I am hoping they take care of packing etc.
Re:The Durian King by ValentineC on Sunday July 07, 2019 @12:57PM (#20376099)
Protip: the cultivar of durian matters, and is what I suspect makes many foreigners dislike durian (since they're likely to buy the cheapest to hedge their risk).

Musang King (mentioned in the article, though some unscrupulous sellers might pass D101 off as it) and D24 are favourites among the locals.

The cheapest is usually either Red Prawn, Green Bamboo, or Black Pearl, which aren't that great.

I think this article is pretty decent in describing the more common durian cultivars found in Malaysia: https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/hail-the-king-of-frui...

Re:The Durian King by jeromegv on Sunday July 07, 2019 @09:45AM (#20375042)
Most airlines recommend against bringing durian on flights. Also, not sure which country you are from, but at least in Canada/USA you can’t bring fresh fruits from abroad, it’s strictly forbidden and there are dogs walking around the airport trained for the smell of food.
Re:The Durian King by harrygeez on Sunday July 07, 2019 @12:23PM (#20375869)
You'll want to head out to the suburbs. There's an area called SS2 that is where most of the locals go to have their durians.

I'd recommend against taking it out because even for locals many of us can't bear the smell, and it's considered impolite.

On a side note, are you coming here for NG MY conference?

Re:The Durian King by gshakir on Sunday July 07, 2019 @02:47PM (#20376930)
Thank you. I had to look up “NG MY” conference, so, no not coming for Angular conference.
Re:The Durian King by kzrdude on Sunday July 07, 2019 @10:08AM (#20375138)
Sounds pretty expensive for a fruit, especially in Malaysia! So is it a luxury food?
Re:The Durian King by harrygeez on Sunday July 07, 2019 @12:21PM (#20375856)
In some ways it is. But in the grand scheme of things it doesn't cost that much more than a meal at a restaurant, and many people actually consume them as if durians were a meal
Re:The Durian King by klingonopera on Sunday July 07, 2019 @01:50PM (#20376483)
This comparison is highly skewed: In Malaysia, in part maybe also due to cheap labour, it is far more frequent and standard to go out to eat, a entire full course meal in a "restaurant" ("Mamak" stall) costs less than a pack of cigarettes/a can of beer.

So if you're comparing this to the European type of restaurant, much cheaper than you'd believe.

Source: Lived there when I was 7-16 years old.

EDIT: Because of Islam, a can of beer in Malaysia is more expensive, and costs the same/somewhat less than a pack of cigarettes.

Re:The Durian King by harrygeez on Monday July 08, 2019 @02:58PM (#20385657)
I'm comparing against more... "proper"(?) restaurants actually, where it's normal to cost anything from RM30-RM50 for a meal.

P.S. I'm not belittling hawker food/budget food options, it's just when you go to restaurants I feel that you expect a certain level of hospitality, just like how you don't really call kebab joints restaurants in Europe?

Re:The Durian King by klingonopera on Tuesday July 09, 2019 @04:23PM (#20396187)
Yeah, but you can see "Restauran" on many signs in Malaysia belonging to those hawker and mamak stalls, and they "own" that word in Malaysia.

Where in Europa (and I'm guessing in Northern America, too) you'd say you're going to a restaurant for dinner, you'd have to emphasize that fact in Malaysia that it would be an "uptown" joint.

I hadn't realized Durians were that expensive! Maybe I have the kilogram-price in my head, but I thought they were less than RM10...

But yeah, RM30-50 is normal, cheap I would think, for a "proper" restaurant in Malaysia. But I haven't been there since ~2013, and last lived there ~2006, and in the meantime, had the feeling that the RM lost buying power over the years...

Re:The Durian King by ianai on Sunday July 07, 2019 @05:01AM (#20374214)
How do you most often eat it? Raw? With some condiment?
Re:The Durian King by vdas on Sunday July 07, 2019 @05:23AM (#20374277)
You would eat the flesh raw and discard the seeds. Some people like to pair durians with mangosteens[0]. Durian burps have a strange aftertaste so most people I know avoid drinking carbonated drinks (i.e. Coke, Pepsi) while eating durian.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mangosteen

Re:The Durian King by ValentineC on Sunday July 07, 2019 @01:11PM (#20376202)
> Durian burps have a strange aftertaste so most people I know avoid drinking carbonated drinks (i.e. Coke, Pepsi) while eating durian.

I grew up with durian, and I think durian burps are fine.

In the region, there's this belief that durians shouldn't be eaten with alcohol though — you're welcome to read up on the myth behind it.

Re:The Durian King by czl_my on Sunday July 07, 2019 @05:19AM (#20374266)
Yes, also at room temperature
Re:The Durian King by ak39 on Sunday July 07, 2019 @05:10AM (#20374245)
How does it compare to Jack fruit?
Re:The Durian King by callmeal on Sunday July 07, 2019 @08:09AM (#20374719)
There are two different varietals of jackfruit: one with firm/crunchy flesh (this is the kind you see canned in stores) and the other with creamy. Durian is like the jackfruit with the creamy flesh (in texture), but durian's fruit is larger. They have a similar mouthfeel (and taste: to me, that is), but the smell puts off a lot of people. Unfortunately you don't get the creamy jackfruit in a lot of places so you have to hunt for it. Luckily my parents have a tree in their back yard....
Re:The Durian King by vram11 on Sunday July 07, 2019 @02:59PM (#20377029)
Based on looking up durian in Wikipedia, and having seen large jackfruits in India, I can say that jackfruit can grow much larger.
Re:The Durian King by nrmn on Sunday July 07, 2019 @09:40AM (#20375033)
Can jackfruit be eaten raw too?
Re:The Durian King by 2muchcoffeeman on Sunday July 07, 2019 @09:55AM (#20375075)
Yes. The seeds can also be saved and cooked. And if you have the young fruit, you could cook it in say a curry like a meat substitute.
Re:The Durian King by ajudson on Sunday July 07, 2019 @01:52PM (#20376492)
Is the creamy jackfruit the same thing as cempedak?
Re:The Durian King by vdas on Sunday July 07, 2019 @05:37AM (#20374315)
Jackfruit flesh is firm and juicy. In contrast, durian flesh is creamy -- imagine thick, dense whipped cream around a jackfruit-like seed.

You can't cook with durian seeds like you can with jackfruit seeds (i.e. chakkakuru upperi or chakkakuru mezhukkupuratti)

Re:The Durian King by vram11 on Sunday July 07, 2019 @02:58PM (#20377016)
I was wondering the same, as someone who has eaten jackfruit but never durian.