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Re:Debian 10 “Buster” Released by lossolo on Saturday July 06, 2019 @08:50PM (#20372946)
I run Debian everywhere, it's super stable, had machine that was running production jobs for almost 3 years without downtime (around 1000 days uptime) and it went down because of server power supply failure. Have plenty of machines with 1+ year of uptime.
Re:Debian 10 “Buster” Released by ohazi on Saturday July 06, 2019 @08:58PM (#20372986)
I also run Debian (almost) everywhere. For those who want a rolling release, Debian testing is also surprisingly stable. One of my laptops has been on testing getting continuous updates for about 7 years now and still runs great.
Re:Debian 10 “Buster” Released by _delirium on Saturday July 06, 2019 @09:18PM (#20373047)
Even Debian unstable is reasonably stable for me (despite the name), comparable to other rolling-release distros I think. Really not-ready-to-ship stuff is uploaded to 'experimental' instead. The main precaution I take is having 'apt-listbugs' installed. It checks for any new high-severity bugs in the packages you're upgrading. You can take a look at them before deciding whether to upgrade, which occasionally helps avoid installing something broken.

On servers I prefer Debian stable though. I like my mail server running unattended with only security upgrades, and rolling-release distros tend to introduce config-breaking changes exactly when I have the least time to deal with them.

Re:Debian 10 “Buster” Released by ohazi on Saturday July 06, 2019 @09:32PM (#20373083)
You're describing my setup exactly. Stable for servers, testing for personal machines, with apt-listbugs installed (the install guide recommended this at one point, not sure if it still does). I also ran unstable for about two years and, like you said, it was fine.

Testing is usually only a few weeks behind unstable though, so if your primary motivation is to have relatively recent software and a rolling release so that you never have to stop everything and deal with full system upgrade breakages, then testing is great.

Re:Debian 10 “Buster” Released by favadi on Saturday July 06, 2019 @09:17PM (#20373041)
How do you apply kernel update without rebooting the server?
Re:Debian 10 “Buster” Released by regecks on Saturday July 06, 2019 @10:16PM (#20373214)
There are a lot of live patching solutions available, paid and free. On my Debian systems, I use KernelCare (like $2.50/server/mo) for a hands-off experience, have only had good experiences over the years.

It's possible that you can do it yourself on Debian (maybe look into https://packages.debian.org/stable/kernel/kpatch), but it was a bit labor intensive, last time I checked, as you have to manually select patches to apply.

Re:Debian 10 “Buster” Released by Thaxll on Sunday July 07, 2019 @12:05AM (#20373495)
We all know OP didn't updated his server for 3 years+
Re:Debian 10 “Buster” Released by dependenttypes on Sunday July 07, 2019 @04:45AM (#20374169)
I don't see anything in OPs post that implies that.
Re:Debian 10 “Buster” Released by audience_mem on Tuesday July 09, 2019 @06:04PM (#20397142)
Nope, but it's so likely, it may as well be assumed.
Re:Debian 10 “Buster” Released by Thaxll on Sunday July 07, 2019 @11:12AM (#20375471)
1000 days of uptime means the server never rebooted for 3 years, since you need to reboot to apply kernel update / firmware update. ( and plz don't mention ksplice ect .. those are not intended for that )
Re:Debian 10 “Buster” Released by regecks on Sunday July 07, 2019 @05:08PM (#20377865)
They absolutely are intended for that. RHEL, Canonical, Oracle, SUSE and KC all disagree with you.
Re:Debian 10 “Buster” Released by Thaxll on Monday July 08, 2019 @05:01PM (#20386721)
How do you update firmware without rebooting for 3 years? And no it's a stupid idea to use Ksplice for that long and I'm 99.9% sure that OP didn't use Ksplice or similar solution anyway, it's just bad mgmt.
Re:Debian 10 “Buster” Released by bamboozled on Saturday July 06, 2019 @08:59PM (#20372990)
I would argue that’s mostly due to the Linux kernel being stable. Not to take anything away from Debian the hard work of the maintainers and contributed of Debian.
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Re:Debian 10 “Buster” Released by dang on Sunday July 07, 2019 @12:51AM (#20373610)
I know this sort of personally aggressive comment is common in some technical circles, but it's not ok on HN. Would you mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and sticking to those rules, and spirit, when posting here? We'd appreciate it.
Re:Debian 10 “Buster” Released by xmichael999 on Saturday July 06, 2019 @10:01PM (#20373175)
I second this, Debian is the professionals stable platform. Never does an update leave me F*%@, as I've mentioned in this same thread I'm a Devuan guy (sorry to be repetitive) but I simply cannot get down with systemD - maybe I am just old... Devuan is great, but much much much thanks to the Debian guys for provide a beautiful and solid base. Thanks Debian team you guys are amazing!
Re:Debian 10 “Buster” Released by andrewshadura on Sunday July 07, 2019 @09:05AM (#20374886)
You don't have to use systemd on Debian.
Re:Debian 10 “Buster” Released by MozzieW on Sunday July 07, 2019 @12:44PM (#20375997)
"You don't have to use systemd on Debian."

...unless you want a fully functioning desktop machine.

You only have to look at the effort put in by the MX Linux team to keep the shim functioning to realise a non-server Debian system without systemd is a headache for a ordinary user.