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Re:Show HN: A minimalist Mac app that helps track, allocate,... by reaperducer on Thursday July 04, 2019 @12:49PM (#20356000)
I'm not in the market for this kind of app, but thank you for making it a straight $9.99 purchase, instead of a $4.99/month SaaS (rental) scheme. Or some bogus in-app purchase that gets negated somewhere along the way when the app auto-updates and the previous in-app purchase is no longer available.

I can't tell if it syncs data with my other Apple devices, but if it does, it would be great if it had the option of doing it through iCloud instead of through some proprietary untrusted service that I have to create yet another account for. (I' looking at you, Panic and Junecloud.)

Re:Show HN: A minimalist Mac app that helps track, allocate,... by jpulgarin on Thursday July 04, 2019 @01:35PM (#20356318)
Thanks! We considered a subscription service with some added features but decided instead to focus on simplicity. Right now there is no syncing, but we will definitely consider using iCloud if we implement it in the future (and once it's back up).
Re:Show HN: A minimalist Mac app that helps track, allocate,... by flaque on Thursday July 04, 2019 @08:18PM (#20358919)
I would much rather pay for a product over time.

When you pay upfront, the dev is not incentivized to try and keep you. So the product gets worse and worse until it dies.

If you pay overtime, the whole game is “how can we make this person love the shit out of this thing for as long as possible.”

Re:Show HN: A minimalist Mac app that helps track, allocate,... by reaperducer on Friday July 05, 2019 @11:07AM (#20363045)
When you pay upfront, the dev is not incentivized to try and keep you. So the product gets worse and worse until it dies.

This is not true.

When you pay up front, the developer has an incentive to make the product right the first time; instead of releasing a buggy product because it can always be patched later.

In the pay up front model, if the initial product is crap, then nobody buys the next version. That is the incentive to release a quality program the first time around.

Then the developer has an incentive to make the next version so much better that people who like the first product will buy the new version.

If you pay overtime, the whole game is “how can we make this person love the shit out of this thing for as long as possible.”

No, if you pay over time, the whole game is "how can we keep this sucker on the hook and milk him for monthly payments for bug fixes and things we should have done the first time."

For example, millions of people pay repeatedly for WordPerfect from version to version for decades because it just kept getting better. That's how it was done until very recently, even with operating systems.

Re:Show HN: A minimalist Mac app that helps track, allocate,... by JustSomeNobody on Thursday July 04, 2019 @09:24PM (#20359229)
I’ll pay for version 1. If version 2 is good I’ll pay for that. If not I own version 1 and will keep using it.
Re:Show HN: A minimalist Mac app that helps track, allocate,... by Crinus on Friday July 05, 2019 @10:44AM (#20362872)
> how can we make this person love the shit out of this thing for as long as possible

"I know! Let's add every feature and bullet point under the sun!"

Re:Show HN: A minimalist Mac app that helps track, allocate,... by dejaime on Thursday July 04, 2019 @01:47PM (#20356391)
If that is a problem, I'd rather have it sync with something like nextcloud instead of just another flavor of untrusted proprietary service.
Re:Show HN: A minimalist Mac app that helps track, allocate,... by Fnoord on Thursday July 04, 2019 @02:42PM (#20356812)
Precisely. Not everyone who's using a Mac is using the entire Apple ecosystem. I use Macs, Android, and Linux, and I am not going to use any Windows/Linux/Mac-specific protocol.
Re:Show HN: A minimalist Mac app that helps track, allocate,... by jkmcf on Thursday July 04, 2019 @08:16PM (#20358902)
My observation is that most monthly services are priced per year as a single purchase. To me it would make more sense to average that over 2 years. The big problem I see is people constantly clamoring for more, and non-converging, features, but only want to pay once.

If I ever get around to releasing one of the various projects I have, it will probably use a tip jar.

Re:Show HN: A minimalist Mac app that helps track, allocate,... by oiasdjfoiasd on Thursday July 04, 2019 @03:35PM (#20357120)
It depends. If it's a piece of software that never updates, a one time purchase makes sense.

But otherwise, why should you get access to all future updates and ongoing work?

I think Sketch has a good system - you pay once and you only have access to that version forever (bugs and all). In order to update/get new features, you need to pay again or have an ongoing subscription.

Re:Show HN: A minimalist Mac app that helps track, allocate,... by asutekku on Thursday July 04, 2019 @07:42PM (#20358727)
For a consumer subscription doesn’t really make sense if there’s no value added with the subscription. Also, such small app as this having a subscription would just be straight up insulting.

Of course it is better for the dev to sell a subscription, but having to pay when new versions releases is for the customer the best option.

Re:Show HN: A minimalist Mac app that helps track, allocate,... by izacus on Friday July 05, 2019 @02:29AM (#20360296)
The software purchase model has worked for years and had made many companies very very rich.

Hint: you can charge for upgrades without forcing them down your users throats.

Re:Show HN: A minimalist Mac app that helps track, allocate,... by austhrow743 on Friday July 05, 2019 @08:58AM (#20362176)
>But otherwise, why should you get access to all future updates and ongoing work?

Because a norm has been established in software where you can charge for what in physical goods would be considered a defective piece of shit that should be recalled asap. This is beneficial to software developers and is predicated upon the concept of free updates.