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Re:Cold-war-style suspicion of Chinese-American and Chinese ... by SamReidHughes on Sunday June 30, 2019 @05:51PM (#20320768)
That's not flamebait, it's the crux of the matter.

It comes across as a dry description of reality to me. Apparently some people can't read it without thinking it's some kind of knock against China.

Re:Cold-war-style suspicion of Chinese-American and Chinese ... by dang on Sunday June 30, 2019 @05:53PM (#20320783)
It can easily be both. In such a case the flamebait is the higher-order bit.

Preserving the container here matters more than rightness or wrongness. Indeed, nothing will burn this place down faster than flaming rightness.

Re:Cold-war-style suspicion of Chinese-American and Chinese ... by SamReidHughes on Sunday June 30, 2019 @05:58PM (#20320819)
I added more to my comment while you replied. The comment in question isn't flaming rightness at all.
Re:Cold-war-style suspicion of Chinese-American and Chinese ... by stcredzero on Sunday June 30, 2019 @08:25PM (#20321492)
I'm of the same mind, that the statement is factual. It's even more valuable, because it's information which has the potential to alter mental models.

I think dang's point in this thread should be interpreted as: "Such mental model breaking information around delicate subjects needs to be treated with the most care, precisely because it's the most valuable while it's the most likely to be lost to emotional jamming of the discourse."

Re:Cold-war-style suspicion of Chinese-American and Chinese ... by SamReidHughes on Wednesday July 03, 2019 @04:44PM (#20348580)
Yeah. In particular the comment isn't denigrative of China at all. In fact, making opposite statements would arguably be more denigrative.
Re:Cold-war-style suspicion of Chinese-American and Chinese ... by permatech on Sunday June 30, 2019 @06:59PM (#20321104)
You make these sorts pro-China comments a lot. Why?
Re:Cold-war-style suspicion of Chinese-American and Chinese ... by dang on Sunday June 30, 2019 @07:39PM (#20321303)
I haven't made any pro-China comments, only pro-HN comments. If they seemed pro-China, that's a reflection of your views, not mine.
Re:Cold-war-style suspicion of Chinese-American and Chinese ... by permatech on Monday July 01, 2019 @01:12AM (#20322621)
Any criticism of China is marked as flame bait.
Re:Cold-war-style suspicion of Chinese-American and Chinese ... by dang on Monday July 01, 2019 @03:42AM (#20323264)
That's far from true.

Your recent comments to HN have nearly all been using the site for ideological battle. We don't allow that, regardless of which ideology you're fighting for or against, because it destroys the intellectual curiosity HN exists for. Would you please stop now?

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re:Cold-war-style suspicion of Chinese-American and Chinese ... by permatech on Monday July 01, 2019 @07:32AM (#20324310)
Guess I’ll resign myself to free speech jail...
Re:Cold-war-style suspicion of Chinese-American and Chinese ... by dang on Monday July 01, 2019 @04:59PM (#20329700)
I took another look at your account history and got quite a jolt. You've been breaking the site guidelines flagrantly and frequently, including with nasty personal attacks.

Since it's clear you don't want to use HN as intended, we've banned the account. If that changes at some point, you're welcome to email [email protected] and give us reason to believe that you'll follow the rules in the future.

Re:Cold-war-style suspicion of Chinese-American and Chinese ... by permatech on Monday July 01, 2019 @07:04PM (#20330599)
Nasty personal attacks? Give me a break!
Re:Cold-war-style suspicion of Chinese-American and Chinese ... by dang on Monday July 01, 2019 @10:46PM (#20331709)
Re:Cold-war-style suspicion of Chinese-American and Chinese ... by showdeadplease on Monday July 01, 2019 @03:01AM (#20323064)
Containers have little value as ends in and of themselves. Containers' purpose is to contain something of value.

Of what value is wrongness?

Thanks, Dan. It's nice to have a concise statement on record to the effect that HN would rather be wrong than be right and risk offending anyone. Truth is not a goal here.

Re:Cold-war-style suspicion of Chinese-American and Chinese ... by dang on Monday July 01, 2019 @03:46AM (#20323276)
"Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize."

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html