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Re:16-Inch MacBook Pro Said to Launch in September by dasil003 on Monday June 24, 2019 @10:20AM (#20263742)
If there’s no escape key and inverted-T arrow keys I’m cutting my losses and jumping to Linux after 30 years as a Mac owner.
Re:16-Inch MacBook Pro Said to Launch in September by WoodenChair on Monday June 24, 2019 @10:28AM (#20263828)
I’m also a thirty year Mac user and also not happy about the keyboard and waiting for a new one (using pre 2016s) - but I’m not going to throw away three decades of my own knowledge and tooling over it. Yes it sucks, but that seems like blowing it out of proportion.
Re:16-Inch MacBook Pro Said to Launch in September by Waterluvian on Monday June 24, 2019 @10:25AM (#20263793)
I'm curious what losses there are to be cut? Isn't it as simple as just buying a different product and using that instead?

It's not like my kitchen only fits Whirlpool or my garage only fits Honda.

Re:16-Inch MacBook Pro Said to Launch in September by masklinn on Monday June 24, 2019 @10:33AM (#20263887)
> I'm curious what losses there are to be cut? Isn't it as simple as just buying a different product and using that instead?

Chances are they have software installed on their machine. OSX has a vibrant ecosystem of independent developer and thus a pretty large number of bespoke good-quality software which might / would have to be replaced. Especially as cross-platform software tends to integrate less than well with the platform.

That goes double for older mac users, which have a higher tendency to use native software.

And of course one needs the time to adapt to different paradigms, shortcuts, facilities, … once again especially for older users of the platform for whom this becomes second nature.

Incidentally the points mix, the second one drives the first, I regularly notice cross-platform software which doesn't respond properly to Cocoa's text-movement shortcuts (even a simple C-a / C-e).

Re:16-Inch MacBook Pro Said to Launch in September by WoodenChair on Monday June 24, 2019 @10:29AM (#20263841)
Losses in accumulated platform knowledge, purchased software investments, and custom built tooling. No, it’s not like replacing a dishwasher!
Re:16-Inch MacBook Pro Said to Launch in September by d-sc on Monday June 24, 2019 @10:37AM (#20263926)
For me, these are non trivial to replace on Linux or windows: 3 years of randomly generated passwords conveniently stored, a purchased movie collection on iTunes, tab syncing between phone and laptop, touchId login, and probably most importantly iMessage sync between laptop and phone.
Re:16-Inch MacBook Pro Said to Launch in September by AbacusAvenger on Monday June 24, 2019 @10:29AM (#20263836)
Presumably the investment in MacOS applications. Switching from Mac to whatever else would require finding replacements for those.
Re:16-Inch MacBook Pro Said to Launch in September by stephenwilliams on Monday June 24, 2019 @10:30AM (#20263858)
Possibly software and accessories that only work with macOS.
Re:16-Inch MacBook Pro Said to Launch in September by bin0 on Monday June 24, 2019 @10:31AM (#20263863)
Not sure I understand this. Apple means both hardware and software, are you cutting software and using linux on a macbook, or cutting hardware too and using on a windows machine?
Re:16-Inch MacBook Pro Said to Launch in September by geophile on Monday June 24, 2019 @01:39PM (#20266192)
Already jumped. System76 Darter + PopOS is a great combination.
Re:16-Inch MacBook Pro Said to Launch in September by nsxwolf on Monday June 24, 2019 @10:35AM (#20263900)
Whoah Whoah they’re talking about getting rid of arrow keys?