> I don't know what is your motivation to use a throwaway account to publicly lie on this

Personal attacks will get you banned here. Commenters on HN must remain kind to one another (see https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html), regardless of how wrong they think they are. They also must assume good faith.

What about take time back to 9th, June. The time the first protest happening, almost every famous media reported this but except Chinese. Is it wired?

And take a look at the links you chose, I don’t think it maybe a fair stand view because of already being defined as a riot.

Fair stand view would be too much a luxury for those media, but the tone isn’t that aggressive as CCP used to be (like calling them “terrorist” or “separatism”)

Don't bother, the echo chamber here is pretty bad

Give us a break. You link us to communist propaganda and expect us to take you seriously? The paper tiger Chinese government is insecure enough to take down songs from Les Miserables (https://www.economist.com/prospero/2019/06/14/do-you-hear-th...). There is no fair coverage without a free press, and my view is that we need to reinforce our allies in the Hong Kong and Taiwanese and wait out or even hasten the PRC's collapse. The Chinese people deserve liberation.

On that note, the Hong Kong Free Press--a nonprofit, English-language, digital newspaper in HK--is doing its annual fundraising drive right now. If you want to support a free press in the region, this is a good place to start. Their coverage of the protests has been quite good, and they definitely hit above their weight class with the amount of resources that they have.

https://www.hongkongfp.com

Second this support for Hong Kong Free Press, where I have been putting money where my mouth is.

You can judge for yourself from their reportings, especially related to the current protest.

Propaganda? You mean like CNN and Foxnews?

Good luck finding true independent and fair media.

Just because they're biased or "unfair" doesn't mean they aren't independent. And there's a big difference because you can find consensus or inconsistencies between a collection of independent sources.

The same rule applies to learning anything from other people. The other person is probably biased in some ways so you can't 100% rely on them for 100% of your perspective. But you can talk to lots of people and gain a more rounded world view.

It's only a problem if you limit yourself to getting all of your information from one source.

Lol there are no fair coverage period, you just choose to believe things that fit your political view

Shuhhhhhhhh you break the social norm

Please don't post unsubstantive comments to HN, regardless of how frustrated you are by other comments here.

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It should be a norm to take articles from authoritarian state-owned outlets with many grains of salt. The common trope is to give the basic outline of the facts while ignoring the real issues: namely the fact that communist China is undemocratic, violates basic human rights and that it is a tarnish to anyone's reputation and character to turn a blind eye to this.

Also don’t assume Chinese people are like brainless idiots, people READ the news and will wonder what ACTUALLY happened. Ironically, though silently, most educated Chinese people won’t trust official newspaper that much. so thanks no worries

What can I say, these people are brainwashed from birth to think that what they have is good. Once we put enough economic pressure on them the paper tiger will fold.

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Hey can you read Chinese? How did you know that those articles actually didn’t mention there’s a protest going on?

I don't need to read the article to know it's propaganda