"AWS isn't critical either, its bubbled because of easy startup money and lazyness. will be a good thing to see it fade away" Wait what ? Have you, been on the web at all ? Ten thousands of websites are hosted, or partially hosted on AWS

>Ten thousands of websites are hosted, or partially hosted on AWS

Who cares? There is no reason for it to exist, and it's continued existence is arguably what OP said; that and the abject laziness of CFO types.

Sure there is -- I use it for my personal projects (so no CFO's), for example for email sending and object storage.

Sure, your own server is fine when you have unlimited time; but once you want to save time (CFO: to pay less salary; personal: to have more time in life for other things), AWS makes a great deal of sense.

Half the workforce in webdev has an average work experience of 5 years or less which leads to self-sustaining generational churn in this area, and a whole industry of bootcamps and fizzbuzz-style questions handed out to employers and webdevs alike. Being hellbent to deliver webapps regardless of fit is no progress, and will hit a wall as customers and regulators demand power efficiency.

> and will hit a wall as customers and regulators demand power efficiency.

Sorry, but LOL. That's so low on any regulator's agenda that it wouldn't make it even as a campaign point if we were to elect a "president of IT", let alone a real-world senator or mayor or president.

Ok it might not be yet, but things are changing rapidly. In Germany, established parties are running scared right now over loosing first-voters, and push for significant change.

Imagine a little icon or traffic sign or so we put on websites informing users about independently measured power effiency. Could work with privacy and network footprint as well. Hell, maybe I should put up a competition for graphic artists to design such a thing, with a 1k USD/EUR prize.

Are you saying there's no feedback in the sense that a website that consumes more resources costs more to the owner? I would have thought there is.

I'm afraid I've not completely understood. I was talking about the power consumption for the users of the site/webapp rather than the power necessary for running web servers. But that would indeed be another important measure (and I believe power density is certainly on the radar of data center equipment buyers, but not framework users and most developers yet).

I wouldn't rule it out. Considering the occasional tech-related hysterias, all it would take is for someone high profile to start complaining about how much power and heat slack generates.

they do have a lot of usage but barely everywhere. remember most of the web is wordpress.

Yes, that is true, but most WordPress sites are hosted on a cloud provider.

I believe WordPress, at least the admin interface, is essentially an SPA.

I think what was meant is that phone apps are taking over. These use the web but not Javascript.