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Re:“Apps intended for kids may not include third-party adver... by Retric on Wednesday June 05, 2019 @05:19PM (#20109281)
Personally it depends on the product. I find advertising specific prescription drugs abhorrent to anyone.

However, I think it’s completely reasonable to say talk to your doctor about ED or whatever. If there is only one treatment they seem similar, but when several options exist people should not be pushing for a specific drug based on an ad campaign.

Re:“Apps intended for kids may not include third-party adver... by nullandvoid on Wednesday June 05, 2019 @05:31PM (#20109387)
I find the idea of any ad reccomending me to talk to a doctor extremely creepy - in what world would you want ad providers acting as doctors..
Re:“Apps intended for kids may not include third-party adver... by geofft on Wednesday June 05, 2019 @07:54PM (#20110260)
In the abstract it makes sense:

- We've decided (in the US at least, but most everywhere short of a few communist or communist-adjacent countries) that the way we incentivize and reward drug researchers is by having them work for pharmaceutical companies that profit on the free market—and in particular that drugs are valuable to society and worth researching in proportion to how much profit they bring.

- If you don't know that a certain medical condition is a medical condition, you might not seek treatment for it, or you might not recognize it at all. In particular, rare diseases by their nature are those that many doctors don't know how to diagnose, and new treatments by their nature won't have been part of those doctors' curriculum.

- There are few means of reliably pushing information to the general public outside of advertising.

Therefore advertising "talk to your doctor about this condition" (and perhaps "whether certain drugs might be right for you") is both a rational / logical response within this framework and exactly what the framework wants you to do.

If we want to get rid of it, let's redesign the framework: reward drug researchers in some way other than profits, or find out how to inform either doctors or patients about new treatments in some other way.

Re:“Apps intended for kids may not include third-party adver... by meheleventyone on Thursday June 06, 2019 @03:18AM (#20112283)
Drug advertising on TV in the US is one of the more in your face dystopian aspects of visiting. It’s very strange to push specific treatments onto lay people who don’t have the background to clinically diagnose or choose treatments for themselves.

Maybe it’s a symptom of lacking a national healthcare system but we manage fine without drug advertising in the UK and elsewhere in Europe. In our case advertising and sales are aimed towards Doctors.

Re:“Apps intended for kids may not include third-party adver... by tialaramex on Thursday June 06, 2019 @04:00AM (#20112471)
And even the pressure on medics has been greatly reduced by regulation.

My friend who is an independent prescribing nurse in the NHS [which means she can go off-piste like a regular doctor writing arbitrary prescriptions, she's not just limited to a handful of standard recipes to solve well understood problems] says after she qualified her blow-out birthday party was entirely paid for by drug reps out of their marketing budgets. These days that would get them fired, and the best you can hope for is stress toys, stationery, that sort of thing.

Re:“Apps intended for kids may not include third-party adver... by tripzilch on Friday June 07, 2019 @07:39AM (#20123499)
When visiting the USA I turned on the TV just to watch an ad segment (didn't have to wait long) and I agree with the dystopian feel. Medical ads and also the attack ads (political or otherwise). It just made me want to say "piss off ads! promote a product or service but stay the hell away from my personal business". Big vibe of none-of-your-business, but like you say they just get in your face. It feels a little like being at a tourist market.

But I wasn't there to watch TV so I filed it as the next weird cultural artifact where the USA is in fact exactly as advertised worldwide on TV and film instead of made-up by a crazy screenwriter :)

Re:“Apps intended for kids may not include third-party adver... by Zopieux on Wednesday June 05, 2019 @05:54PM (#20109563)
Most sane countries forbid medicine/drug ads by law.
Re:“Apps intended for kids may not include third-party adver... by punnerud on Wednesday June 05, 2019 @06:04PM (#20109629)
Norway also ban: Alcohol, smoke, gaming, all ads to children, all gun related, not allowed to count points in games before children are 13, credit card loans, all health related than can’t show scientific benefit..
Re:“Apps intended for kids may not include third-party adver... by 6502nerdface on Wednesday June 05, 2019 @07:34PM (#20110159)
> not allowed to count points in games before children are 12

So it's illegal in Norway for my 12-year-old cousin to beat my highscore in Pacman?

Re:“Apps intended for kids may not include third-party adver... by tripzilch on Friday June 07, 2019 @07:40AM (#20123510)
Maybe you're just not allowed toccount the points and have to pretend to let them win? :)
Re:“Apps intended for kids may not include third-party adver... by punnerud on Thursday June 06, 2019 @12:48AM (#20111669)
As organized sport, yes.
Re:“Apps intended for kids may not include third-party adver... by mrep on Wednesday June 05, 2019 @06:55PM (#20109948)
> Norway also ban: Alcohol, smoke, gaming

Gaming, as in like video games and board games are banned? Seriously?

Re:“Apps intended for kids may not include third-party adver... by robin_reala on Wednesday June 05, 2019 @07:52PM (#20110248)
Scandinavian translation difficulty: the word for a gambling game here is ‘spel’ or game (at least in Swedish), a video game is a ‘datorspel’ or computer game.
Re:“Apps intended for kids may not include third-party adver... by sk0g on Wednesday June 05, 2019 @07:14PM (#20110052)
I am fairly certain they mean gaming as in gambling. Would be a bit weird to ban video game ads, surely?
Re:“Apps intended for kids may not include third-party adver... by mehh on Thursday June 06, 2019 @03:04AM (#20112228)
Hard gaming vs Soft gaming
Re:“Apps intended for kids may not include third-party adver... by punnerud on Thursday June 06, 2019 @01:04AM (#20111739)
My typo - Should be gambling and all games involved money. The only one allowed is governmental and all the profit from that game go back to sports for kids, and “they” are closely monitoring that you don’t get gambling addicted to that game by forcing you to only play with a personal ID.
Re:“Apps intended for kids may not include third-party adver... by adrianhel on Thursday June 06, 2019 @05:10AM (#20112822)
No. Gambling ads are not allowed though. Neither alcohol or smoking are banned, but ads for them are.
Re:“Apps intended for kids may not include third-party adver... by ctz on Thursday June 06, 2019 @03:59AM (#20112468)
It's common usage in US English. eg, https://gaming.nv.gov/ do not regulate video games.
Re:“Apps intended for kids may not include third-party adver... by bencollier49 on Wednesday June 05, 2019 @07:21PM (#20110088)
I recently visited the US for a conference. The moment I landed, I started getting medicine adverts on websites. It was rather jarring.
Re:“Apps intended for kids may not include third-party adver... by tripzilch on Friday June 07, 2019 @07:44AM (#20123533)
Gotta be prepared. It's like, if you go to Australia you have to wear sunblock. If you go to the USA, wear adblock.
Re:“Apps intended for kids may not include third-party adver... by tripzilch on Friday June 07, 2019 @07:16AM (#20123390)
I think both of these types are not allowed where I live (the Netherlands) because, you know, people shouldn't be getting their medical advice from advertising, for what I hope are obvious reasons.