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Re:With greater longevity, the quest to avoid infirmities of... by whatshisface on Tuesday June 04, 2019 @07:42AM (#20093991)
One thing is for sure, the average Western diet has so many calories than most people could probably do with a little restriction. (Not even to do anything special, just to return to a healthy state.)
Re:With greater longevity, the quest to avoid infirmities of... by agent008t on Tuesday June 04, 2019 @08:05AM (#20094138)
At the same time, many young men in the West struggle to put on weight and are underweight.
Re:With greater longevity, the quest to avoid infirmities of... by mcv on Tuesday June 04, 2019 @08:41AM (#20094367)
In the West? Men? I'd love to see statistics for that.

In general, being overweight is a far, far larger problem in the West, and being underweight is extremely rare outside of eating disorders like anorexia. There are people who are naturally skinny due to how their metabolism works, but they are rarely truly underweight.

Re:With greater longevity, the quest to avoid infirmities of... by coldtea on Tuesday June 04, 2019 @09:11AM (#20094599)
For a small number of "many".

[...] according to 2010 data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, these are the measurements of the average American man:

Height: 5 feet 9 inches (69.3 inches) Weight: 195.5 pounds Waist circumference: 39.7 inches

Re:With greater longevity, the quest to avoid infirmities of... by jobigoud on Tuesday June 04, 2019 @07:47PM (#20100291)
Height: 1.76 m, Weight: 88.7 kg, Waist circumference: 100.8 cm.
Re:With greater longevity, the quest to avoid infirmities of... by threeseed on Tuesday June 04, 2019 @09:09AM (#20094583)
Depends how define many. 34.8% of men between 20-39 are obese in the US:

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/databriefs/db288.pdf

That's far more a concern than whether men need to bulk up or not. Which naturally happens as men age and their metabolism slows anyway.

Re:With greater longevity, the quest to avoid infirmities of... by TeMPOraL on Tuesday June 04, 2019 @09:29AM (#20094777)
Depends on the country, I suppose. I'm having a hard time finding stats for US that compare underweight and overweight % of population in one study.

Anecdotal evidence from Europe: in our industry, culturally associated with obesity, I meet roughly equal amount of obese and underweight people. And I seriously doubt those underweight people spend time in the gym.

Re:With greater longevity, the quest to avoid infirmities of... by SeanDav on Tuesday June 04, 2019 @08:38AM (#20094347)
Can't decide if this is sarcastic/tongue-in-cheek or serious. If serious - would love to see source(s) for that statistic....
Re:With greater longevity, the quest to avoid infirmities of... by agent008t on Tuesday June 04, 2019 @08:56AM (#20094494)
Serious. Don't have the statistics, but look up "gomad" for "gallon of full fat milk a day" - it is a thing for a reason.
Re:With greater longevity, the quest to avoid infirmities of... by davidivadavid on Tuesday June 04, 2019 @10:16AM (#20095231)
There's a difference between weight gain strategies to build muscle and eating because you're "underweight." People not working out and eating normally will be less bulky than people who work out and eat comparatively more. But they won't be "underweight."
Re:With greater longevity, the quest to avoid infirmities of... by coldtea on Tuesday June 04, 2019 @09:12AM (#20094607)
Everything is a "thing for a reason".

The reason could be a tiny outlier minority.

You used the term "many".

Re:With greater longevity, the quest to avoid infirmities of... by agent008t on Tuesday June 04, 2019 @10:06AM (#20095143)
I used the term "many" specifically because I do not have the stats. Not a majority, but a significant number of people, that struggle to gain weight.
Re:With greater longevity, the quest to avoid infirmities of... by gitgreen on Tuesday June 04, 2019 @01:17PM (#20097109)
If you have no data to back up your claim you should not make that claim. The word "many" is a borderline weasel word.
Re:With greater longevity, the quest to avoid infirmities of... by Falling3 on Tuesday June 04, 2019 @10:04AM (#20095114)
Sure it's a thing for a reason... the reason is guys who are into body lifting that was an easy source of calories and protein. It has nothing to do with your narrative.
Re:With greater longevity, the quest to avoid infirmities of... by vostok on Tuesday June 04, 2019 @08:11AM (#20094178)
Do you have a link to any quantitative data? I'd love to see how this has changed over time.
Re:With greater longevity, the quest to avoid infirmities of... by phito on Tuesday June 04, 2019 @08:26AM (#20094284)
oh yeap, been struggling with this forever.
Re:With greater longevity, the quest to avoid infirmities of... by coldtea on Tuesday June 04, 2019 @09:12AM (#20094614)
Try some bacon.
Re:With greater longevity, the quest to avoid infirmities of... by asark on Tuesday June 04, 2019 @10:37AM (#20095419)
Costco pizzas are $10 and over 4000 calories, eat one of those a day and if you don't get fat then you probably have a tapeworm in you or something. Or you're Michael Phelps during training season.

... or me at 18. Damn I miss that metabolism.

Re:With greater longevity, the quest to avoid infirmities of... by coldtea on Tuesday June 04, 2019 @10:46AM (#20095515)
Or just have 12 stacked pancakes for breakfast at iHop + all the trimmings every day.
Re:With greater longevity, the quest to avoid infirmities of... by phito on Wednesday June 05, 2019 @05:25AM (#20102694)
I don't like bacon.