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Re:Five Hundred and Seven Mechanical Movements (1908) by symplee on Tuesday May 21, 2019 @10:16PM (#19977143)
Can anyone explain movement 38? [1]

Two identical gears start moving at the same speed. Suddenly, one gear slows down, then lurches forward at a much faster speed, and then returns to its starting speed.

While the other, identically shaped gear, spins at a constant speed the whole time.

[1] http://507movements.com/mm_038.html

Re:Five Hundred and Seven Mechanical Movements (1908) by scoyle on Tuesday May 21, 2019 @10:32PM (#19977228)
It appears that the left gear is the driving gear and the right is the driven. This means that the angular speed of the right gear is the ratio of the left radius to the right radius (speed_right = speed_left*radius_left/radius_right). Because the angular speed of the left gear is constant the only change to the angular speed of the right will come from the changing radius ratio of the two gears.

This behavior can be seen a bit more clearly with nautilus gears that have constantly changing radii.

Re:Five Hundred and Seven Mechanical Movements (1908) by Parcle on Tuesday May 21, 2019 @10:28PM (#19977205)
I imagine the red gear is the one backed with a motor rotating at a constant speed. Which would explain why it never slows down or speeds up.

The blue one is being entirely driven by the red. It slows down because moving 2 notches at a greater diameter requires less rotation than moving 2 notches at a lesser diameter. It then speeds up because moving 3 notches at a lesser diameter requires more rotation than moving 3 at a greater diameter.

Re:Five Hundred and Seven Mechanical Movements (1908) by Rapzid on Tuesday May 21, 2019 @11:40PM (#19977540)
Others have talked to the changing ratio, however I think the possible implications(use cases) of this are also interesting. I'm imagining making room for something, also rotating at a the same speed, to slip into place by arresting the second gears speed before catching it up.

I'd love to get into watch building which likely utilizes a lot of these tricky movements.

Re:Five Hundred and Seven Mechanical Movements (1908) by pawelk on Wednesday May 22, 2019 @08:25AM (#19980373)
I have recently became interested with the inner workings of watches and found this 1949 video to be a perfect explanation of the underlying concept of a watch movement mechanism: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYBvt9kA3bE
Re:Five Hundred and Seven Mechanical Movements (1908) by Rapzid on Friday May 24, 2019 @12:24AM (#19998460)
That was a great video. Tourbillon from scratch; one day.
Re:Five Hundred and Seven Mechanical Movements (1908) by Zenst on Tuesday May 21, 2019 @10:28PM (#19977198)
Gear ratios. Think bicycle.

By adjusting the distance from the center the ratio can be changed. Closer to the center on the driving cog (the left red one) will reduce rotation ratio and further away, will increase the rotation.

Re:Five Hundred and Seven Mechanical Movements (1908) by balfirevic on Tuesday May 21, 2019 @10:24PM (#19977183)
Only relative speed will be determined by the geometry (these gears, in effect, change the gear ratio throughout one revolution).

In this animation, the author decided that the left gear is driving the right one (while itself, presumably, being driven by a motor at constant speed or something similar).

Re:Five Hundred and Seven Mechanical Movements (1908) by lqet on Wednesday May 22, 2019 @05:59AM (#19979535)
As others have mentioned, the movements make perfect sense intuitively as soon as you realize that the red gear is rotating constantly (driven by a motor), and the blue gear is spinning freely.
Re:Five Hundred and Seven Mechanical Movements (1908) by duiker101 on Wednesday May 22, 2019 @06:36AM (#19979701)
It does indeed thinking about it like that. But since the gears would be bumping into each other rather than just pushing each other would that cause them to deteriorate faster?
Re:Five Hundred and Seven Mechanical Movements (1908) by skykooler on Wednesday May 22, 2019 @10:18AM (#19981440)
Gears are always bumping into each other, one tooth at a time. In practice, the friction of the teeth sliding on each other causes much more wear than the impacts.
Re:Five Hundred and Seven Mechanical Movements (1908) by taejo on Friday May 24, 2019 @03:50AM (#19999380)
In a properly constructed (shaped) gear, the teeth should roll against each other rather than sliding (i.e. the velocities of the contact points are the same).
Re:Five Hundred and Seven Mechanical Movements (1908) by soulofmischief on Wednesday May 22, 2019 @09:34AM (#19980979)
Sloped / beveled edges, a strong material, and a ratcheting mechanism should keep gear lifetime about the same if I had to guess.
Re:Five Hundred and Seven Mechanical Movements (1908) by mdesq on Wednesday May 22, 2019 @05:08PM (#19985522)
Also lubricated with grease or even bathed in oil which serves as a cushion.
Re:Five Hundred and Seven Mechanical Movements (1908) by nachexnachex on Tuesday May 21, 2019 @10:24PM (#19977185)
The left wheel rotates at fixed speed, it's the source of the movement (connected to the source of power). The right wheel rotates according to the relative radii between them, the constant speed of the left wheel dictating its speed.
Re:Five Hundred and Seven Mechanical Movements (1908) by Nition on Tuesday May 21, 2019 @10:26PM (#19977189)
They are indeed identical but they're spinning in opposite directions, which in effect means one is flipped (going small->big instead of big->small). I believe that's how they can behave differently.
Re:Five Hundred and Seven Mechanical Movements (1908) by dsheth on Tuesday May 21, 2019 @10:30PM (#19977222)
the gear on the left is the driving gear, moving at a constant rate. When the gear on the left allows the gear on the right to fit closer to the center of that left gear, the gear on the right moves more slowly. Similarly, when the gear on the right fits farther from the center of the left gear, the gear on the right moves more quickly
Re:Five Hundred and Seven Mechanical Movements (1908) by lowboy on Tuesday May 21, 2019 @10:24PM (#19977186)
Red is being driven by the axle at a constant rate, blue is being driven by the teeth of red