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Re:Google suspends some business with Huawei by yskchu on Sunday May 19, 2019 @09:48PM (#19956911)
The difference between Huawei's situation and Microsoft's situation is that Microsoft's app store is not compatible with Android or IOS (obviously, different OS)

While if Huawei uses the Android open source base, the only thing they have to do is entice developers to submit another copy of their app to their store, which is a much lower barrier than the one MS faced to develop a whole new ecosystem

Re:Google suspends some business with Huawei by morpheuskafka on Sunday May 19, 2019 @09:51PM (#19956929)
Not if that app depends on Google Play Services, which most developers targeting "Android" take for granted.
Re:Google suspends some business with Huawei by askvictor on Sunday May 19, 2019 @11:05PM (#19957236)
Perhaps Huawei will assist in the development of microg (https://microg.org/) - a free (as in freedom) drop-in replacement for Google Play Services.
Re:Google suspends some business with Huawei by morpheuskafka on Monday May 20, 2019 @03:21PM (#19964012)
There's going to need to be a mechanism for in-app purchases and a substitute for SafetyNet as well.
Re:Google suspends some business with Huawei by snaky on Monday May 20, 2019 @12:04AM (#19957443)
Huawei will never do that, the very concept of free or open-source is absolutely alien to them. But they could develop some kind of their own Play Services, compatible with Google.
Re:Google suspends some business with Huawei by graton on Monday May 20, 2019 @01:13AM (#19957704)
Huawei contributes to open source projects right now. I know they have been contributing to OpenStack for years and likely other open-source projects. https://www.stackalytics.com/?company=huawei&metric=commits&...
Re:Google suspends some business with Huawei by kristianc on Monday May 20, 2019 @05:48AM (#19958775)
> Huawei will never do that, the very concept of free or open-source is absolutely alien to them.

The Shenzhen ecosystem has taken the idea of 'Open' and 'Open Source' further than perhaps anywhere else in the world. Huawei the company is built on that kind of information sharing. I highly doubt it's alien to Huawei.

[1] https://www.szoil.org/

[2] https://convidera.com/article/shenzhen-chinas-ecosystem-for-...

Re:Google suspends some business with Huawei by gecho on Monday May 20, 2019 @05:31AM (#19958702)
"the very concept of free or open-source is absolutely alien to them"

white people have a way of saying incredibly insulting, demeaning things about non-whites in a way that it is acceptable in common discourse.

statement such as these need to be called out for what they are - biased opinions based on an irrational fear of "the chinese"

Re:Google suspends some business with Huawei by briandon on Monday May 20, 2019 @06:19AM (#19958918)
I would not agree with the statement you've quoted either, but can you see that you've posted a comment shot through with the same attitudes that you believe tainted his comment?

You've assigned a race to another poster based on your own preconceptions of the attitudes and behaviors of members of that race (kicking off your reply to snaky with "white people have a way of [...]") and lumped all members of a race together (accusing all white people of making derogatory statements regarding other races).

Re:Google suspends some business with Huawei by Angostura on Monday May 20, 2019 @06:41AM (#19959008)
Odd that you think this is about 'white people' v 'non-white people' rather than about a company's culture. I see to recall very robust discussions about Microsoft et al's position on open source without race getting dragged into it.
Re:Google suspends some business with Huawei by tenpies on Monday May 20, 2019 @06:13AM (#19958895)
> white people have a way of saying incredibly insulting, demeaning things about non-whites in a way that it is acceptable in common discourse

How do you even know he or she is white? Why racialize a comment in this manner?

Re:Google suspends some business with Huawei by jmkni on Monday May 20, 2019 @08:16AM (#19959604)
I guess they could provide their own implementations of the Google Play Services API's?
Re:Google suspends some business with Huawei by niutech on Wednesday May 22, 2019 @06:25AM (#19979661)
It's already done: https://microg.org
Re:Google suspends some business with Huawei by ETHisso2017 on Sunday May 19, 2019 @09:52PM (#19956936)
The barrier would be that many Android apps also leverage Google's in-built services, which would be unavailable on the upcoming generation of Huawei phones. The question then becomes to what degree could someone replicate those services, and how quickly.
Re:Google suspends some business with Huawei by Juha on Sunday May 19, 2019 @10:24PM (#19957063)
One thing to note is that the whole Chinese Android ecosystem currently works without those Google services or Play Store. It's still challenging to push system without Google globally, but at least they have experience with that locally in China.
Re:Google suspends some business with Huawei by ETHisso2017 on Sunday May 19, 2019 @10:26PM (#19957071)
How do they replicate the functionality that Google Services provide? And could they bring that functionality to the rest of the world?
Re:Google suspends some business with Huawei by LadyNike on Sunday May 19, 2019 @11:59PM (#19957423)
It's just very different.

For example, there are a ton of SDKs that provide push notifications, such as Baidu, Tencent, etc...

There are also "super apps", such as WeChat, that offer their own API surface and can be preferable to some app devs.

Then there are some things, such as "advertising id", which none of these SDKs provide (at the moment?).

So yeah, the answer is somewhere between "it's complicated" and "no one".

Re:Google suspends some business with Huawei by nickonline on Monday May 20, 2019 @12:06AM (#19957449)
They use massive mega apps e.g. WeChat
Re:Google suspends some business with Huawei by niutech on Wednesday May 22, 2019 @06:26AM (#19979664)
There is already microG: https://microg.org
Re:Google suspends some business with Huawei by ghobs91 on Sunday May 19, 2019 @09:51PM (#19956926)
While true, this is also the case for Amazon's app store, and their app selection is a fraction of the Play store to this day.
Re:Google suspends some business with Huawei by platform on Monday May 20, 2019 @01:06AM (#19957683)
Well, if Huawei would say a) here is our store b) your app will be marketed to Chinese population (as long as your backend servers run on Chinese infra)

then, I think they have a chance to attract app developers. Otherwise, I doubt it.

Re:Google suspends some business with Huawei by srcmap on Monday May 20, 2019 @01:27AM (#19957756)
For Chinese market, Huawei don't have anything to worry about. It is likely gain more "Chinese" market share from this.

For the rest of the world, it would be completely different story. It is hard to imagine Huawei won't loss huge market share from the EU and rest of the world without Google's Play Store.