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Re:Singapore Urges U.S. to Accept China's Rise, Spare Other ... by wallace_f on Thursday May 16, 2019 @04:57AM (#19927280)
The US does this, but I'm glad it's a country where we value being able to openly criticize our government for it.

We have an independent judiciary, democratic institutions--what are structural Separations of Powers which is the most important structure of a civilization consistent with liberty.

China doesn't have that. Saying the US also cheats the rules, too, is important, but shouldn't be confused with the reality that China does it much more abhorrently.

Re:Singapore Urges U.S. to Accept China's Rise, Spare Other ... by thefounder on Thursday May 16, 2019 @05:13AM (#19927360)
Yeah, sure and how is that Huawei ended up being banned without due process? Europeans are not sparred either using the Justice Department or a straight out tariff(i.e steel, cars etc)

https://www.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/ax5hwm/economic_war...

Re:Singapore Urges U.S. to Accept China's Rise, Spare Other ... by wallace_f on Thursday May 16, 2019 @05:14AM (#19927367)
True. And every US company is by default basically banned from China unless they want to let you in.
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Re:Singapore Urges U.S. to Accept China's Rise, Spare Other ... by thefounder on Thursday May 16, 2019 @06:16AM (#19927648)
US being the world's superpower has experience with communists, dictators, royals and all kind of leaders. The only issue here is that China is the 2nd world economic power so it's a bit harder to use the stick.
Re:Singapore Urges U.S. to Accept China's Rise, Spare Other ... by baybal2 on Thursday May 16, 2019 @04:03PM (#19932533)
US has no experience, it looses it once every electoral term
Re:Singapore Urges U.S. to Accept China's Rise, Spare Other ... by Riverheart on Thursday May 16, 2019 @08:40AM (#19928374)
Nobody said it was a perfect system. It can be abused, especially when legal precedents haven't been set, but there are also means to challenge the legitimacy of such decisions.
Re:Singapore Urges U.S. to Accept China's Rise, Spare Other ... by thefounder on Thursday May 16, 2019 @09:28AM (#19928805)
>> but there are also means to challenge the legitimacy of such decisions.

And how did that work? (i.e for the Iraq invasion/Afganistan).

"international law matters only when it is aligned with US national interests"

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/mar/15/mike-pompeo-...

Re:Singapore Urges U.S. to Accept China's Rise, Spare Other ... by msiyer on Thursday May 16, 2019 @07:51AM (#19928071)
The government goes to war\implements policy 1. People criticize.

The government continues war\policy 1. People continue criticizing.

The government starts war\implements policy 2. People criticize.

The government continues war\policy 1 and war\policy 2. People continue criticizing.

...

Re:Singapore Urges U.S. to Accept China's Rise, Spare Other ... by hombre_fatal on Thursday May 16, 2019 @08:45AM (#19928414)
Forward slash (/) is punctuation in English. Back slash is not.
Re:Singapore Urges U.S. to Accept China's Rise, Spare Other ... by msiyer on Thursday May 16, 2019 @08:53AM (#19928485)
My eyes have been seeing a lot of Windows local file paths lately. Nothing that a couple of days of Linux\FreeBSD cannot cure.
Re:Singapore Urges U.S. to Accept China's Rise, Spare Other ... by mises on Thursday May 16, 2019 @08:59AM (#19928541)
Really? We are currently disengaging in Syria. We left Iraq. If people had cared that much about leaving earlier, we would have left earlier because they would have made it an important issue of a campaign. A couple people criticizing it do not change policy. This is the flaw of the tyranny of the majority, which is why we are set up to allow more power to state and local governments.

Of course, Iran is now threatening free trade through the straits of hormuz. Would you call intervention to protect free passage "toppling foreign governments" because they "make decisions we don't like"?

Re:Singapore Urges U.S. to Accept China's Rise, Spare Other ... by msiyer on Thursday May 16, 2019 @09:07AM (#19928612)
>> If people had cared that much about leaving earlier...

It really does not matter. US of A could never prove the existence of WMD in Iraq. In fact, all of their claims have been proven to be wrong. Millions dead. People who started the war are enjoying retirement sipping on the costliest wines.

Re:Singapore Urges U.S. to Accept China's Rise, Spare Other ... by codedokode on Thursday May 16, 2019 @07:08AM (#19927848)
While separation of powers is a great thing for protection of human rights, it doesn't change anything for international treaties. No matter whether country is democratic or not, they will try to push terms that are beneficial to them rather than to other countries.
Re:Singapore Urges U.S. to Accept China's Rise, Spare Other ... by cc81 on Thursday May 16, 2019 @06:48AM (#19927764)
What does that have to do with free trade and the actions around it?

I mean a Chinese person can say that they are glad to live in a country that does not invade other countries, killing hundreds of thousands of innocent people.

Re:Singapore Urges U.S. to Accept China's Rise, Spare Other ... by Lunatic666 on Thursday May 16, 2019 @07:16AM (#19927903)
Tibet? Treatment of Muslims in the country?
Re:Singapore Urges U.S. to Accept China's Rise, Spare Other ... by xuki on Thursday May 16, 2019 @07:58AM (#19928107)
It’s not to the extent of the US but China did invade other countries in the past. Vietnamese people sure want to have some words with you.
Re:Singapore Urges U.S. to Accept China's Rise, Spare Other ... by ionised on Thursday May 16, 2019 @05:00AM (#19927299)
> The US does this, but I'm glad it's a country where we value being able to openly criticize our government for it.

Around half of your population don't seem to want that at all as long as 'their guy' is in power.

Re:Singapore Urges U.S. to Accept China's Rise, Spare Other ... by sgift on Thursday May 16, 2019 @05:35AM (#19927478)
The US has many problems, but there's a big difference between people being unhappy with you and being send into "reeducation camps" if the government doesn't like what you say.
Re:Singapore Urges U.S. to Accept China's Rise, Spare Other ... by boomboomsubban on Thursday May 16, 2019 @06:54AM (#19927782)
There's also a major difference between being sent to reeducation camps and being killed by a drone strike. The US may tolerate dissent inside their borders better, but far worse overall.
Re:Singapore Urges U.S. to Accept China's Rise, Spare Other ... by stallmanite on Thursday May 16, 2019 @08:00AM (#19928116)
Not sure re-education camp is a step up from drone strike. Depends on your priorities I suppose.
Re:Singapore Urges U.S. to Accept China's Rise, Spare Other ... by boomboomsubban on Thursday May 16, 2019 @08:08AM (#19928156)
If you prefer death to a reeducation camp, that choice is likely available to you. The dead have no choice.
Re:Singapore Urges U.S. to Accept China's Rise, Spare Other ... by agent008t on Thursday May 16, 2019 @06:03AM (#19927595)
Rhetoric- and you believe it! Don’t you know where those slogans come from? Well-paid researchers - how do you say it? - "think tanks," funded by big businesses. What is that? A "think tank"?

China is the last sovereign country in the world. Authoritarian but willing - unlike U.N.-governed countries - to give its people the freedom to do what they want. The West, so afraid of strong government, now has no government. Only financial power.

Re:Singapore Urges U.S. to Accept China's Rise, Spare Other ... by kipchak on Thursday May 16, 2019 @02:56PM (#19931863)
Our governments have limited power by design.
Re:Singapore Urges U.S. to Accept China's Rise, Spare Other ... by agent008t on Friday May 17, 2019 @07:24AM (#19938461)
I spill my drink!