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Re:Google Is Turning Off the Works-with-Nest API by hyeonwho4 on Tuesday May 07, 2019 @09:41PM (#19855184)
You don't seem fully serious, but the writing is probably on the wall for third party tools which integrate with GMail.

I use InboxZero through Beeminder, and could see Beeminder being locked out.

Re:Google Is Turning Off the Works-with-Nest API by gonyea on Wednesday May 08, 2019 @12:10AM (#19855793)
There are contractual obligations around changes to GSuite products (and their APIs).
Re:Google Is Turning Off the Works-with-Nest API by StudentStuff on Wednesday May 08, 2019 @04:26AM (#19856917)
For select users that are willing to advocate for themselves against Google and are covered under a binding, unexpired contract Google will likely let them continue using said APIs. Everyone else is likely to see APIs break at Google's whim, as most users aren't covered by custom GSuite contracts.
Re:Google Is Turning Off the Works-with-Nest API by TeMPOraL on Wednesday May 08, 2019 @04:16AM (#19856862)
Contracts expire and can be not renewed.
Re:Google Is Turning Off the Works-with-Nest API by michaelmrose on Tuesday May 07, 2019 @10:39PM (#19855470)
Ideally your Gmail ought to be through a domain and services that add value via imap.

Then its impossible for the functionality to evaporate.

Re:Google Is Turning Off the Works-with-Nest API by freen on Tuesday May 07, 2019 @11:16PM (#19855604)
You are assuming they will retain imap functionality.

Ask the xmpp/jabber folks about hangouts.

Re:Google Is Turning Off the Works-with-Nest API by xyzzy_plugh on Wednesday May 08, 2019 @12:03AM (#19855771)
Yeah I fully expect imap to disappear in the next few years. I've started migrating to domains I own for this reason.

I can see them keeping it around for enterprise for a bit longer, though.

Re:Google Is Turning Off the Works-with-Nest API by jdofaz on Wednesday May 08, 2019 @02:31AM (#19856374)
I think it will stick around as long as it is the way the iOS Mail app connects
Re:Google Is Turning Off the Works-with-Nest API by jjeaff on Wednesday May 08, 2019 @02:59AM (#19856508)
I don't know. Seems like an easy way to force everyone on to the iOS Gmail app. People aren't going to change their email address because it doesn't work with the iOS mail app.
Re:Google Is Turning Off the Works-with-Nest API by michaelmrose on Wednesday May 08, 2019 @01:31AM (#19856102)
I assumed nothing. If you sync regularly via imap you could switch providers tomorrow and lose nothing.
Re:Google Is Turning Off the Works-with-Nest API by TeMPOraL on Wednesday May 08, 2019 @04:21AM (#19856899)
Good for you, that's the smart way to use e-mail. But most people, many of in tech and many of them knowing better, rely on GMail's web and mobile apps.

Also, unless you're using IMAP to sync the entire mailbox, you'd still lose. If your mail program only stores e.g. last 30 days of mail locally, and lets everything else live on the mailserver, then you'd only have 30 days worth of e-mails left.

Re:Google Is Turning Off the Works-with-Nest API by michaelmrose on Wednesday May 08, 2019 @01:26PM (#19861036)
This would be assuming that google opted to drop imap with zero warning AND you weren't smart enough to sync all your mail.

The first is out of character for google and the second is totally within your control.

All your mail is for most people merely GB at most per user.

Re:Google Is Turning Off the Works-with-Nest API by gonyea on Wednesday May 08, 2019 @12:13AM (#19855805)
Uh, you realize that imap support has been in GMail for its entire history?
Re:Google Is Turning Off the Works-with-Nest API by kalleboo on Wednesday May 08, 2019 @12:40AM (#19855923)
Google Talk had XMPP support for its entire history... until they killed it
Re:Google Is Turning Off the Works-with-Nest API by ceejayoz on Wednesday May 08, 2019 @12:16AM (#19855815)
So?

Doesn’t mean they can’t get rid of it.

Re:Google Is Turning Off the Works-with-Nest API by michaelmrose on Wednesday May 08, 2019 @01:29AM (#19856095)
Getting rid of say outlook support would greatly weaken Gmail.

Furthermore if you have an up to date sync on the day imap support ends then you have all your email and need face only changing over to a new address or if you already use a custom domain logging on and changing the email provider.

Re:Google Is Turning Off the Works-with-Nest API by swebs on Wednesday May 08, 2019 @09:59AM (#19858847)
They make it really difficult to use your Gmail account with K9 Mail. You have to jump through a bunch of hoops and "critical security warnings" for attempting to sign in with a non-Google app.