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Re:Apply for a Google Cr-48 by snarfman on Tuesday December 07, 2010 @04:03PM (#1980603)
I absolutely love the fact that a laptop fully based around the web is being denied a caps lock key. Good riddance. I think 99% of its usage (constants aside) is for trolling/yelling.
Re:Apply for a Google Cr-48 by hvs on Tuesday December 07, 2010 @04:13PM (#1980634)
I like to use it as my Control key, though. I'd be concerned that they would replace it with something else and I'd have to learn to twist my pinky unnaturally again.
Re:Apply for a Google Cr-48 by commandar on Tuesday December 07, 2010 @04:15PM (#1980640)
This is exactly what I was about to say. It looks like they've used the caps lock position for the Fn key on the cr-48, so it looks like this may not be possible on this unit.

Then again, I guess it's not that big a deal since the ctrl key doesn't really get used on the web.

Re:Apply for a Google Cr-48 by eelco on Tuesday December 07, 2010 @04:54PM (#1980792)
It looks like a 'search' key actually. Look closely at the fourth screenshot. Not sure if I'm right, though.
Re:Apply for a Google Cr-48 by wahnfrieden on Tuesday December 07, 2010 @11:26PM (#1981887)
Photos of this laptop leaked several days ago, with greater detail on the keyboard. It is indeed a search key. The shift key also has a light on it, suggesting that it can be double-tapped to activate caps lock.
Re:Apply for a Google Cr-48 by gcb on Tuesday December 07, 2010 @10:17PM (#1981714)
I use the ctrl key a lot on ssh sessions. If the web is now reduced to youtube and valleywag, I'd gladly abandon it.
Re:Apply for a Google Cr-48 by sh1mmer on Wednesday December 08, 2010 @03:21AM (#1982279)
You are thinking of the Internet. The Web is an abbreviation of the "World Wide Web" (of hyperlinks), rather than the medium which conveys its data.
Re:Apply for a Google Cr-48 by gcb on Tuesday December 14, 2010 @07:52PM (#2006509)
touché. good point.

ok, so i must say web represent a very very very low priority on my internet usage. having only 'the web' would be like cable TV with only the weather channel.

No. Thanks.

Re:Apply for a Google Cr-48 by jlees on Tuesday December 07, 2010 @05:08PM (#1980845)
You can map it to Ctrl.
Re:Apply for a Google Cr-48 by alanh on Tuesday December 07, 2010 @11:34PM (#1981898)
In Chrome OS? Is there a web app for that?
Re:Apply for a Google Cr-48 by jlees on Wednesday December 08, 2010 @02:17PM (#1984197)
Re:Apply for a Google Cr-48 by j_baker on Tuesday December 07, 2010 @04:16PM (#1980644)
Indeed. I can't remember the last time I hit the caps lock key on purpose.
Re:Apply for a Google Cr-48 by waterlesscloud on Wednesday December 08, 2010 @12:16AM (#1982000)
But how will we ever code in FORTRAN on the thing?
Re:Apply for a Google Cr-48 by chancho on Wednesday December 08, 2010 @01:36AM (#1982136)
Re:Apply for a Google Cr-48 by runinit on Tuesday December 07, 2010 @03:40PM (#1980505)
They shouldn't put a "country" field on their form if its only open to the USA. Highly disappointing.
Re:Apply for a Google Cr-48 by joshz on Tuesday December 07, 2010 @03:56PM (#1980568)
Seriously, I got all excited too, however http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2010/12/update-on-chrome-web-...

"We're starting with the U.S. and will expand to other countries once we get the necessary certifications. To participate in the pilot program, visit the Chrome notebook website."

Re:Apply for a Google Cr-48 by frisco on Tuesday December 07, 2010 @03:57PM (#1980578)
Any Googlers here (Matt_Cutts?) in a position to comment on how long we'll be waiting to hear about this? Because being accepted as a tester would absolutely make my December.
Re:Apply for a Google Cr-48 by jlees on Tuesday December 07, 2010 @05:07PM (#1980838)
I'm not Matt, but I work on Chrome OS, so that probably counts for something.

However: I don't know the answer to this question. Sorry. We do want to get pilots their devices as soon as possible though.

Re:Apply for a Google Cr-48 by krainboltgreene on Tuesday December 07, 2010 @06:15PM (#1981079)
I get this tingle in my mind when I think about Chrome OS and it's netbook. Happened when I first saw the Nexus too.

A chance to present the world with a unified device that access the internet, doesn't cost much, and is very portable.

Re:Apply for a Google Cr-48 by jlees on Tuesday December 07, 2010 @06:50PM (#1981176)
Thank you.
Re:Apply for a Google Cr-48 by Matt_Cutts on Tuesday December 07, 2010 @05:16PM (#1980876)
Sorry--it's far enough away from me that I have no idea. I'm sure the Chrome OS team wants to get devices to testers as soon as is practical though.
Re:Apply for a Google Cr-48 by spicyj on Tuesday December 07, 2010 @04:46PM (#1980760)
Matt_Cutts is the web spam expert there; I doubt he's in any position to comment on Chrome OS.
Re:Apply for a Google Cr-48 by frisco on Tuesday December 07, 2010 @05:24PM (#1980907)
Matt_Cutts is technically a web spam expert, but he is also a generally high profile public facing Googler who knows such things. Maybe he doesn't follow android, or maybe it would be inappropriate to answer this; but it doesn't seem crazy that he'd know.
Re:Apply for a Google Cr-48 by 51Cards on Tuesday December 07, 2010 @03:51PM (#1980551)
Why put a country drop down when it's only available in the US? From Canada here... bah humbug.
Re:Apply for a Google Cr-48 by wahnfrieden on Tuesday December 07, 2010 @11:31PM (#1981894)
Because they're allowing other countries soon (pending some required certification), so I can forgive them having the country selection prematurely.
Re:Apply for a Google Cr-48 by dvdt on Tuesday December 07, 2010 @03:45PM (#1980527)
Anyone know the reasoning behind the Cr-48 name? Maybe because that isotope of chromium is one of the longer lived non-stable isotopes of chromium?
Re:Apply for a Google Cr-48 by jlees on Tuesday December 07, 2010 @05:09PM (#1980851)
Bang on; Cr-48 was chosen precisely because it's an unstable isotope of chromium.
Re:Apply for a Google Cr-48 by rudyfink on Tuesday December 07, 2010 @03:56PM (#1980574)
For a second I thought it was a play on create (Cr348 = Cr-48), but your explanation sounds better.
Re:Apply for a Google Cr-48 by wyclif on Tuesday December 07, 2010 @05:17PM (#1980879)
For a second I thought it was a play on the name of a protocol droid...
Re:Apply for a Google Cr-48 by joshma on Tuesday December 07, 2010 @04:54PM (#1980788)
What the speaker said went along the lines of "after awhile the engineers settled on 48." It seemed like there wasn't a clear reason behind it, although my lack of chem knowledge could be why.
Re:Apply for a Google Cr-48 by kingkilr on Tuesday December 07, 2010 @05:01PM (#1980807)
Chromium's atomic number if 24, 48 is twice that. That's all I got :)
Re:Apply for a Google Cr-48 by bockris on Tuesday December 07, 2010 @03:58PM (#1980581)
They alluded to something like that in the webcast.
Re:Apply for a Google Cr-48 by rchowe on Tuesday December 07, 2010 @05:04PM (#1980828)
More likely the software engineers were only moderately versed in chemistry (in a didn't do it since high school/college way) and just doubled the atomic number to get the atomic weight, not realizing that for heavier elements more neutrons are required for stability.
Re:Apply for a Google Cr-48 by Andrenid on Tuesday December 07, 2010 @04:25PM (#1980692)
Very disappointed it's US only (but used to it lately, being Australian).

I'm a heavy Google services user for work & personal (as i'm sure most people here are), and I start commuting 2hrs each way to work in a month, so something like this would've been perfect for the commute. I'd happily spend that time testing the laptop and taking part in feedback. Ah well.

Re:Apply for a Google Cr-48 by calloc on Tuesday December 07, 2010 @05:51PM (#1980999)
I'm a developer and am always looking for the next big platform to develop for. This sounds absolutely perfect. I definitely agree though that if there is no text editor local to the machine I wonder how well it could be used for development, but overall I think it would be interesting to test the device.
Re:Apply for a Google Cr-48 by makmanalp on Tuesday December 07, 2010 @03:59PM (#1980585)
Cute quiz to measure how addicted you are to the internet?

http://www.google.com/chromeos/pilot-program-quiz.html

Re:Apply for a Google Cr-48 by draebek on Tuesday December 07, 2010 @06:00PM (#1981034)
I'm a little irritated by the end of this quiz telling me I'm "addicted to my desktop" and "why not switch to online alternatives?"

Hey Google, why don't you make it so I can indent lines with tab in Gmail, or give me some confidence that my e-mails will be properly formatted (i.e. as required on some mailing lists)? Why don't you make it so I can watch Netflix in one Chrome window without stuttering when I do some other browsing simultaneously in a separate window, or make it so I can use global hot keys to control music playback from random music players in a browser window? Why don't you make Google Docs work offline? (Announcement of "early 2011" posted today, at least.) Why don't you make it so I have confidence that I'll be able to get online and get at my data wherever I am, whenever I need it, without paying a fortune?

That's why I'm not switching to more online alternatives: the desktop applications I still use provide a better user experience and are more reliable. Google, your question reads like I'm the one with the problem.

Re:Apply for a Google Cr-48 by krainboltgreene on Tuesday December 07, 2010 @07:08PM (#1981221)

    Hey Google, why don't you make it so I can indent lines with tab in Gmail
Isn't that your OS/Browsers fault?

    Why don't you make Google Docs work offline? (Announcement of "early 2011" posted today, at least.)
I thought they did this with LocalStorage/Google Gears?
Re:Apply for a Google Cr-48 by draebek on Tuesday December 07, 2010 @08:17PM (#1981429)
> Isn't that your OS/Browsers fault?

I'm using Google Chrome, but that aside, they asked why I don't switch to more online applications. This is one reason.

> I thought they did this with LocalStorage/Google Gears?

They were doing it with Gears, but they ceased support for Gears--and thus offline Google Docs--as of like May this year, I believe.

Re:Apply for a Google Cr-48 by krainboltgreene on Tuesday December 07, 2010 @08:41PM (#1981487)
> Gears Yeah, this is because Gears was basically HTML5/localstorage
Re:Apply for a Google Cr-48 by scrod on Tuesday December 07, 2010 @06:29PM (#1981121)
From the web page:

>Chrome OS is for people who live on the web. It runs web-based applications, not legacy PC software.

Google apparently thinks that being in control of your own computer is a "legacy" concern.

I guess directly empowering users is out of date, while trusting Google unconditionally with all your personal data is the new, hip, digital totalitarian future.

Re:Apply for a Google Cr-48 by wahnfrieden on Tuesday December 07, 2010 @11:29PM (#1981892)
Google does let you export data in many instances, to be fair.
Re:Apply for a Google Cr-48 by sbierwagen on Tuesday December 07, 2010 @05:39PM (#1980954)
Interesting how the questions are framed, which sites are mentioned in the drill down sections, and in what order. (They mentioned weather underground, which I thought was interesting, since that's a very old school web 1.0 kind of site)

Also interesting how it graded me below average, even when I massively exaggerated how much I use web apps. It's almost as if Google has a vested interest in promoting the use of web apps, or something.

Re:Apply for a Google Cr-48 by wtallis on Wednesday December 08, 2010 @12:17AM (#1982006)
I think weather underground deserves a mention because it provides a lot more data than most weather sites. It may not be very fancy and dynamic, but most of the sites that are use their flashiness to distract from their deeper shortcomings.
Re:Apply for a Google Cr-48 by makmanalp on Tuesday December 07, 2010 @06:47PM (#1981172)
Sure it does. That's what the premise behind Chrome OS is. Web apps are supposedly as good as their desktop counterparts. It's getting there, but I think not just yet.
Re:Apply for a Google Cr-48 by RexRollman on Tuesday December 07, 2010 @05:00PM (#1980803)
That was a pretty interesting survey.

Personally, there are only a couple of things that I don't do regularly on the internet: listen to music and text editing. (The only applications I add to Windows 7 on my netbook is Notepad2, Foobar2000, and Chrome.)

Re:Apply for a Google Cr-48 by seldo on Tuesday December 07, 2010 @05:24PM (#1980911)
It says that I spend less time on the web than most people, which is weird, because I live surrounded by web developers and I am online WAY more often than they are...
Re:Apply for a Google Cr-48 by zmanian on Tuesday December 07, 2010 @05:21PM (#1980896)
I can see how I can use this for document/email type work. My version control system has a web interface so I can review code.

But developers are going to want text editors/a terminal/vcs. I do everything else on my machine.

I've been thinking of some sort of server in the cloud for this kind of functionality from tablets....

Re:Apply for a Google Cr-48 by kluikens on Tuesday December 07, 2010 @05:53PM (#1981009)
In no way am I suggesting that it's an equivalent editor, but you may want to take a look at Mozilla Skywriter (formerly Bespin).

https://mozillalabs.com/skywriter/

If I get the chance to be a Chrome OS tester, I'll be giving this a thorough try.

Re:Apply for a Google Cr-48 by rolotomassi on Tuesday December 07, 2010 @10:15PM (#1981710)
Did anyone else not receive a confirmation page of any sort? I submitted the application and was routed directly back.
Re:Apply for a Google Cr-48 by cypherpunks01 on Tuesday December 07, 2010 @11:59PM (#1981966)
They botched error handling I think. That happened to me once - turns out my text field was too long. Cut yours down to 140 characters and re-submit it, does that give you the confirmation page?
Re:Apply for a Google Cr-48 by rolotomassi on Wednesday December 08, 2010 @12:26AM (#1982023)
Thanks for the suggestion! It worked the second time and did provide a confirmation page.
Re:Apply for a Google Cr-48 by GeneralMaximus on Wednesday December 08, 2010 @01:48AM (#1982155)
This is different from the bare-bones quiz linked from Chrome's "New Tab" page. In any case, I filled this new one out too since it lets me actually tell them I'm a developer.

Yes, I'm desperate ;)

Re:Apply for a Google Cr-48 by JulianMorrison on Wednesday December 08, 2010 @06:59AM (#1982611)
As per usual, all the world's American. This Brit says boo and hiss.
Re:Apply for a Google Cr-48 by sudont on Wednesday December 08, 2010 @10:21AM (#1983165)
There's probably going to be an international trial soon. However, I can assume the OS will be released in free beta for you to test on your own hardware.

Since Google's requesting fairly intensive feedback, I can assume it's easier for their team to track usage in a domestic market.

Re:Apply for a Google Cr-48 by Mithrandir on Tuesday December 07, 2010 @08:01PM (#1981395)
I guess this is better than hearing about Wikileaks 24/7.
Re:Apply for a Google Cr-48 by another_ali on Tuesday December 07, 2010 @05:27PM (#1980919)
"So if you live in the United States" ... yet the address country box had Egypt.

désolé

Re:Apply for a Google Cr-48 by flexd on Wednesday December 08, 2010 @05:35AM (#1982452)
getting increasingly annoying that most things like these require that participants are US residents. Don't you guys care what us Europeans have to say? I'd would have liked to apply too.
Re:Apply for a Google Cr-48 by arihant on Wednesday December 08, 2010 @06:35AM (#1982544)
They have a country field but no way to change the state. Fail.
Re:Apply for a Google Cr-48 by z1pher on Tuesday December 07, 2010 @06:31PM (#1981128)
Too bad they don't ship to Canada :(