Re:Hackers went undetected in Citrix’s internal network for ...
by pandapower2 on Tuesday April 30, 2019 @11:23PM
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Its an interesting question. If someone unauthorized was on your network exfiltrating data how would you know?
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Re:Hackers went undetected in Citrix’s internal network for ...
by cmroanirgo on Wednesday May 01, 2019 @03:14AM
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Even more interesting is how the FBI knew they'd been infiltrated before they themselves did?
(There's the obvious conspiracy style accusation in that they were already in there poking around... but that doesn't seem to ring true in this regard)
Re:Hackers went undetected in Citrix’s internal network for ...
by auiya on Thursday May 02, 2019 @11:41AM
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Same way any criminal investigator uncovers stolen goods.
Re:Hackers went undetected in Citrix’s internal network for ...
by mtgx on Wednesday May 01, 2019 @04:31AM
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If the FBI wasn't then NSA definitely was and then told the FBI.
Re:Hackers went undetected in Citrix’s internal network for ...
by rando444 on Wednesday May 01, 2019 @04:22AM
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For some clients we use tools that alert if large amounts of data are transferred outside the network in a single flow.
So even if it's someone with valid access, it would be investigated immediately.
Re:Hackers went undetected in Citrix’s internal network for ...
by jftuga on Wednesday May 01, 2019 @05:41AM
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Which tools do you use? I have been looking for something that does this.
Re:Hackers went undetected in Citrix’s internal network for ...
by kylel on Wednesday May 01, 2019 @07:34AM
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In the Marriot hack post-mortem, they shared that one of the tools they used (which successfully identified the attack) was IBM Guardium.
> Accenture told Marriott's IT staff that one of their security products, a database monitoring system called IBM Guardium, had detected an anomaly on the Starwood guest reservation database
https://www.zdnet.com/article/marriott-ceo-shares-post-morte...
Re:Hackers went undetected in Citrix’s internal network for ...
by pnutjam on Wednesday May 01, 2019 @07:35AM
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I'm guessing snort or one on the similar products.
Re:Hackers went undetected in Citrix’s internal network for ...
by bdibs on Tuesday April 30, 2019 @11:38PM
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Proper audit logs that are regularly checked.
Re:Hackers went undetected in Citrix’s internal network for ...
by drb91 on Wednesday May 01, 2019 @12:25AM
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Assuming the exfiltration can be differentiated from normal behavior!
Re:Hackers went undetected in Citrix’s internal network for ...
by auiya on Thursday May 02, 2019 @11:43AM
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Seeing large amounts of encrypted traffic leaving via a DNS tunnel during non-standard business hours for instance would be an example of such an anomaly. It's not always that easy to detect however.
Re:Hackers went undetected in Citrix’s internal network for ...
by mirimir on Wednesday May 01, 2019 @04:19AM
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Didn't Sony pick up exfiltration through exceptional data flows?
Re:Hackers went undetected in Citrix’s internal network for ...
by IncRnd on Wednesday May 01, 2019 @04:42AM
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Sony was hacked 19 times in two weeks. There was a lot they didn't pick up on due to the difficulties involved with that.
Re:Hackers went undetected in Citrix’s internal network for ...
by ectospheno on Wednesday May 01, 2019 @10:54AM
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Simply storing netflow data and graphing it would show it at a glance. Use a machine setup as a transparent bridge with only physical login if you are paranoid about the netflow data being modified.
Hiding on a box is easy. Hiding on the wire is hard.
Re:Hackers went undetected in Citrix’s internal network for ...
by IncRnd on Wednesday May 01, 2019 @04:40AM
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Why do you assume this was an unauthorized person?
Re:Hackers went undetected in Citrix’s internal network for ...
by pandapower2 on Friday May 03, 2019 @02:36AM
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Fair point.