You seem to trying to express a negative response to the fact that these companies create design frameworks. I'm interested as to why you feel this way?

I didn't read it that way at all, it's simply highlighting that there's a large number of options to chose from! It's great that more companies are publishing their design frameworks, although part of the reason for doing this is certainly to attract talent.

Having partially reviewed a couple of these, I'd say quality varies quite a bit so be sure to dig through the code to see if you'd be comfortable helping maintain that. Always be sure to review the license! For example, Microsoft Fabric is MIT, but the assets (fonts and icons) are under a separate license.

The post is just a copy of a copy: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17971337

No real intent there. It's good to have large organizations donating libraries to open-source.

In a way yes, it was about the utility and relevance of Yet Another Corporate Design System. I couldn't find what I really wanted to post, which was a list of all the abandoned Corporate Design Systems - I think I must have seen that in another comment.

>insert xkcd framework reference<

Design Systems Repo [0] keeps a good list. I've submitted Base Web for inclusion.

[0] https://designsystemsrepo.com/design-systems/

Github's https://primer.style/

Google's https://material.io/design/

I guess most companies have a design system in place

The universal certainty of expansion and contraction. Hey we all got here through it. Now we're in the expansion phase of trying to make the frontend easy again. Contraction comes next.

Dumb question maybe but why is Bootstrap (from Twitter) not on this list? What are the inclusion criteria?

It was originally my list of interactive frontend component libraries that I now keep track of here: https://gist.github.com/manigandham/34154e63dc3c1b8747fab40d...

If you want style guides and design systems then the link by "oedmarap" is much better.

They don’t use it anymore

https://www.quora.com/What-CSS-framework-does-Twitter-use-in...

Jane Street's minimal OCaml-based incr_dom

https://github.com/janestreet/incr_dom

https://www.janestreet.com/tech-talks/intro-to-incr-dom/

Unscientific review from my FHD Dell laptop on Ubuntu too dim for a room without curtains: Bootstrap and Material consistently succeeds in rendering clearly; Ant is fine; Fabric from MS has a very readable site, but their Office apps tend to have tiny labels without contrast; Ring by Jetbrains is also perfect but I had to switch to light mode on my IDE since warning squiggles were too dim, Github AT had issues with grey on white and grey on grey.

Other sites tend to have rendering issues with some lines in letters either becoming doubly thick or barely visible, white text pixelating out to bright backgrounds, anti-aliasing turning some pixels colorful or too dim etc. Some of them seem to be exposing edge cases of text rendering! Text could be too gray to read or too thin.

Designers need to consider people still buying laptops with 1366X768 screens.

I've been evaluating most of these frameworks, and as far as I know Base UI is the smallest and lightest out of all these: https://bundlephobia.com/[email protected]

They're all still big and bloated (like including big sets of icons) but you should only only include what you're using. Tree shaking with webpack and babel and a css optimizer can trim them down significantly.

There's definitely still issues with that though. Try including one small component from material UI for example and the resulting bundle can still be quite significant because it bundles a lot to manage its theming.

There’s a surprisingly small amount that are using both React and Styled Components, so I welcome the addition. (Whatever the intent of this post is)

I don't see how Quasar Framework is a corporate framework. Are you referring to the sponsorships that it's obtained over the past year?

This is a great list! Thanks for sharing.