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Re:Beyond Meat S-1 by JohnFen on Monday April 22, 2019 @07:59PM (#19724328)
> (I live in a city, it was easier than I thought it would be to connect with a farmer out in the rural part of my state.)

I wish that more people would realize how easy this is! Plus, the quality of the meat you'll get (even if you aren't overtly buying the best possible) simply blows anything you find in the supermarket away.

Here's what I've been doing with 4 friends for years now: every year, we go in on buying an entire cow from a local rancher. We have it butchered and packaged, then we each get a quarter. That's a huge amount of meat (a single cow gives us in the neighborhood of 600 lbs of butchered beef) -- enough to last for a year, including giving some away as gifts. I swear, even the hamburger from that is far superior to the best cuts I've had elsewhere.

To do it our way requires buying a large freezer, of course.

Re:Beyond Meat S-1 by theNJR on Monday April 22, 2019 @08:43PM (#19724582)
How much is the full cow? Does the rancher vacuum seal the individual pieces for you, or do you pick up 600lbs of meat and have a meat packing party? Any other details?
Re:Beyond Meat S-1 by JohnFen on Tuesday April 23, 2019 @12:06PM (#19729929)
Because I'm concerned with the end price including butchering, my memory of the cost breakdown details is not ironclad. Take these numbers with a grain of salt. The price varies from year to year, but we tend pay in the neighborhood of $3-$4/lb live weight. An adult live cow tends to weigh around 1,500 lbs, iirc.

All in, including butchering, there isn't a lot of saving here -- per pound of finished meat, we end up paying on the low end of supermarket prices.

However, and I can't emphasize this enough, the quality exceeds that of much more expensive meat. I never understood what vegetarians were talking about when they mentioned the "smell of death" on meat until the first time I bought it like this. The meat I buy doesn't have that smell, and once I encountered the difference, I absolutely understood what the vegetarians were saying.

The rancher doesn't butcher or package the meat. The rancher will deliver the cow to a local outfit that does that (and freezes the finished meat). We select what cuts we are most interested in, what cuts we want ground, and so forth. Then when it's done, we just show up with a truck to pick up the packages. They're packaged just like you get from most other butchers, wrapped in plastic with an outer wrapper of waxed butcher paper.

The only "party" aspect to it is that none of us has enough freezer space to hold an entire cow, so we have to coordinate so that we can divvy up the packages and take them to each of our homes immediately.

I should mention the other nice thing about doing it this way -- we (or one of us, really) actually go to the ranch to make arrangements and select the animal. That means that we can see with our own eyes that the animals were treated well, are in good health, and so forth. Doing this has made visible an awful lot of what used to be invisible and mysterious. In terms of feeling good about the process and intellectual curiosity, this is invaluable.

Re:Beyond Meat S-1 by theNJR on Friday April 26, 2019 @10:46AM (#19758071)
You really got me interested in this! Thank you for all the details.
Re:Beyond Meat S-1 by SECProto on Monday April 22, 2019 @09:14PM (#19724764)
I've been involved in this from a relative and gotten it wrapped in butcher paper (waxed one side). It works pretty well at keeping the moisture sealed (avoiding freezer burn), but you could do vacuum sealing (or maybe even just ziplock bagging) for some improvement.
Re:Beyond Meat S-1 by Pfhreak on Tuesday April 23, 2019 @12:14PM (#19730003)
We paid ~$6.50/lb for our animal, which was a grass fed, organically raised animal. That's obviously high for ground beef, and obviously low for filet mignon. About 40% of what you take home is ground beef by weight (the way we had our animal broken down.)

The butcher broke it down into packages, each package double wrapped in plastic and paper and deep frozen. I have to go pick up 600lbs of meat, then parcel it out and deliver it to my friends (or have them come pick it up.)

Re:Beyond Meat S-1 by dbancajas on Tuesday April 23, 2019 @10:07PM (#19734939)
Can't you just have the butcher already divide them by X ? (X=# of friends)
Re:Beyond Meat S-1 by starky on Monday April 22, 2019 @11:37PM (#19725390)
This post actually reminded me, I've been meaning to try out a meat delivery service that one of my city's local chefs runs (he does farm to table dining). They partner with local farms that treat their animals well and do weekly deliveries. Prices for beef seem to be pretty reasonable, cheaper than both the butcher shops near me.
Re:Beyond Meat S-1 by dfischer on Monday April 22, 2019 @08:17PM (#19724436)
I've been using www.crowdcow.com and have been very happy with the quality and cost. It lasts a while.
Re:Beyond Meat S-1 by uptown on Monday April 22, 2019 @10:35PM (#19725128)
What's the approximate cost for a full butchered cow?
Re:Beyond Meat S-1 by Pfhreak on Tuesday April 23, 2019 @12:17PM (#19730047)
Our total cost was $2940, which included the cost of the animal, the butchering, the kill fee, waste disposal fees, and all relevant taxes. We estimated 415-480lbs of meat take home from that animal.
Re:Beyond Meat S-1 by hedora on Monday April 22, 2019 @10:49PM (#19725180)
We sold a live cow for a bit under $600 at wholesale auction late last year (It probably went to a feed lot).

I’d love to know what direct to butcher retail prices are.

Re:Beyond Meat S-1 by JohnFen on Tuesday April 23, 2019 @12:56PM (#19730469)
How much did that animal weigh?

In talking shop with the rancher we deal with, he gets a lot less per cow at wholesale auctions than in individual sales. On the other hand, wholesale auctions cost him less to do. Per cow, it costs him a lot more time and effort to sell one cow at a time rather than 100.

That said, he did say that his highest profit margins are with individual sales rather than wholesale. And, like any professional in their field, he really enjoys the chance to educate ordinary people (particularly us city-slickers) about his business.

Re:Beyond Meat S-1 by perfunctory on Tuesday April 23, 2019 @02:35AM (#19726133)
> ... with 4 friends for years now: every year, we go in on buying an entire cow from a local rancher.

With the current global adult (ages 15-64) population of approximately 5B your method would need 5B/4 = 1.25B cows. The current global cattle population is about 1B [0]

https://www.statista.com/statistics/263979/global-cattle-pop...

Re:Beyond Meat S-1 by apatters on Tuesday April 23, 2019 @03:40AM (#19726393)
I miss the days when comments on Hacker News focused on hacking and startups instead of scoring Internet virtue points.

Aside from this figure being totally irrelevant (billions of humans don't like and don't eat beef; the parent is probablya heavy beef eater even by US standards), here's a thought. If the parent is right and the quality is higher, maybe there is an opportunity to build a service which connects people with local ranchers so everyone can do this. That would keep commerce local and reduce the emissions involved in transporting beef around the world.

But no, let's fixate on neo-Puritan finger wagging in every topic on every forum on the Internet. god forbid we have ideas to make things better without judging people for their habits.

Re:Beyond Meat S-1 by dagw on Tuesday April 23, 2019 @04:01AM (#19726483)
You're assuming that those 4 people consume all the meat themselves and don't share any of their meals with their family or in other ways re-distribute a portion to other people.
Re:Beyond Meat S-1 by vages on Tuesday April 23, 2019 @02:42AM (#19726158)
But not all people in the world crave cow's meat.